Mart49 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I've been flying planes and gliders for a few years, and now would judge myself as an "intermediate" flyer. I don't crash too often - except when showing off (inverted through the goal post comes to mind!) I got a quad a year ago (small thing) with which i learnt to fly around the garden, then built a 450 size with a KK2 board. Being roundish, I kept loosing orientation, so a few weeks ago I built a HobbyKing H4 (470 size). Well it flies well in the garden so took it over the field yesterday. I have come to the conclusion that my brain has a blockage when an aircraft travels unnaturally sideways and towards me! I cant work out what sticks to push to correct it. I've tried and tried... Just can't do it... I think I'm sticking to wings - much easier! At least on the bright side I've 4x motors and esc's to find planes to put them into!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Day Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 There but for the grace of God go I..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Day Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 That would be me too if I tried it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 What if you ran sideways round it, would keep you fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 OK, here is the trick. If its coming towards you and goes sideways, and you want to correct, just "follow the quad with the right hand stick" in other words if its going left - push left! This is the mult-rotor equivalent of what you were probably taught on fixed wing, to "prop up the low wing with the stick" - same idea. I've instructed 3 or 4 people now on multi-rotors and this does seem to work for them. Other things that can help: 1. Spend some time with MR hovering right in front of you, nose-in, and simply practice moving left and right. 2. Simulators are good at assisting with this sort of problem. Stay with it - you will crack it and eventually it becomes second nature - you don't even think about it. But the key really is practice - the more you fly the quicker you'll feel comfortable. BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Squier Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Dear Mart49, I totally agree. Brain is mystery. I'm in the exact same situation : I do not have to think to control direction anymore when plane or glider is coming toward me and therefore thought mastering my recently Husban X4 school quad would be a matter of days.... It's been three month now of exercises and crashes - and I just get some comfort with side runs but still is hesitant with front flights. I practice a lot some exercises seen on "flite test" video show... worked on me. henri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Try the method I suggest above Henri - it does work. Also you really can't practice "nose in" hovering enough! Do it until you're sick of it - then double that! Aerosim is a good simulator for quads - practice with that will help as well - nose in again! BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bran Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 For what its worth this is how I have successfully trained more than 200 11-15 year olds to fly Helis and Quads. Including a fair number of special needs children . Also used this with adults at an indoor heli club I co-run. In order, no moving on until the level at is deemed by me OK. All start on ground tail/rear in towards pilot unless otherwise stated, into listed move and return to tail in before landing Hover Tail/Rear in, keeping in line and over marked spot. Turn to and Hover 45 degrees away left Turn to and Hover 45 degrees away right Turn to and Hover 90 degrees left Turn to and Hover 90 degrees right Turn to and Hover 45 degrees towards left Turn to and Hover 45 degrees towards right Turn fuly nose in and Hover (from both directions) Turn 90 degrees fly three metres straight, turn 180 return, turn 90 back to tail in (Done both ways) Lift off, turn into nose in, hover, turn 90 degrees fly three metres straight to lines marked on floor, turn 180 return, turn 90 back to nose in (Done both ways) Circuits both ways. Eights Free Flight...................... This is designed to eliminate "handing", where a pilot only ever feels safe and so turns one way, seen far too much at Heli clubs!! Circuit and eights training has a second stage that involves banked flight, not just hanging on the rotor(s) and yawing round. As said, large number trained, using Twister Sport and Hubsan X4's indoors initially, but then up to 250's/180 quads. Have four TS, four X4s, several years old now, used every week term time. TS's have not had any more than displaced tail fins, X4's have not had more than a few blade tips bent and one motor end cap knocked off. Time through the above varies, but usually around six sessions of maybe three batteries each member sees them safe for solo improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Read 2 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I find my brain goes to pieces when self-level is turned off. Panic eventually sets in and I have to switch it back on. Its a practise/confidence thing I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 It is indeed! Most people start to panic as the quad turns around towards them - as Dave has said lots of practice with the quad gradually facing towards you is the key! BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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