Dai Fledermaus Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Nope! I don't think that's going to polish out. LINK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wright Stuff Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Didn't see how it happened, but I think the driver had a tank-slapper! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno Racer Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Happens all the time. The challenger 2 tank was on a range road, with is designated military traffic only. German and Brit civilians use the roads illegally as a shortcut, but stopping a 70 tank when there a civilian car on the wrong side of the road, it shouldn't be there, and the tank is out of gauge for civilian roads, meaning it takes up most of the road - not exactly in Highway Code stopping distances. Edited By Reno Racer on 03/06/2015 14:48:02 Edited By Reno Racer on 03/06/2015 14:48:34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Nicol Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I saw it happen when I was serving in Germnay, we had crashed out of camp on exercise , German police had stopped the traffic and sinaled one of our Chieftains forward, and an impatient Eric moved out in front of it. The tank went right over the bonnet He was a very lucky man not to be injured , not so lucky also as he was fined on the spot for causing the accident, I am a bit confused though, I thought all troops were out of Berlin, there wasn't a panzer ring strasse there anyway , said Lippe on the item , think that could have been the Sennelager range road, you any info on that Reno Racer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno Racer Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I'm out of Germany now, but my guess would be Sennelager, since Horne is about to close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno Racer Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 That should read Hohne not Horne, getting qu te annoyed with this iPad auto correct function. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hopkin Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 The only Panzerringstrasse is Munster and the same photo in the Calgary Herald says its near Paderborn **LINK** As far as I know Berlin Brigade was disbanded in 1994...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno Racer Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Berlin Bde definatley gone. 7 Bde now almost gone, so Fally and Hohne closed. Paderborn, Sennelager will soon be the last of BAOR/BFG until they close in a few years. Even Herford now almost closed and 1Div now in York. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hopkin Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Posted by Reno Racer on 03/06/2015 16:54:46: Berlin Bde definatley gone. 7 Bde now almost gone, so Fally and Hohne closed. Paderborn, Sennelager will soon be the last of BAOR/BFG until they close in a few years. Even Herford now almost closed and 1Div now in York. Churchill Barracks (Lippestadt) gone....... along with about it 40% of my Liver! They just dont make "Yellow Handbags" like they used to..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tony K Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Posted by Dave Hopkin on 03/06/2015 15:49:16: The only Panzerringstrasse is Munster and the same photo in the Calgary Herald says its near Paderborn Quite a long way from Muenster, Dave. I think this Panzerringstrasse is about 10 km north of Bad Lippspringe. There used to be a Rhein Army Summer Show (RASS) which took place in Bad Lippspringe, it was a good day out. I did my first and LAST bungee jump there. Eighty metres high with a rubber band tied around my ankles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hopkin Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Posted by Tony K on 03/06/2015 17:53:57: I did my first and LAST bungee jump there. Eighty metres high with a rubber band tied around my ankles. Makes you do terrible thing alcohol Wonder what happened to Wolfgang and his mobile burger van.... always a welcome sight when playing soldiers on a frosty night on Soltau.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Pah, just a panel-beating job and a new rad. This is how to do it properly.....: 1988, at Bordon Fire Station crossroads, Hants, which is the home of SEME. That's what you get when you pull out in front of an AFV 432...... It was initially treated as a potentially fatal accident but the driver escaped with relatively minor injuries, which was a bit of a miracle, to say the least.... Anyone able to identify the make/type of car? Yours truly in the reflective jacket standing behind the, err, dashboard. Press pic which appeared in The Sun, I'm ashamed to say It's an ill wind, though. When we did the vehicle examination on the AFV 432 I got the chance to take it around the test track at SEME, including a dip in the tank bath. Steering with a pair of slightly mis-matched handbrakes was a novel experience.... Hats off to the lads who mastered the art! Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hooper Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Escort Mk3.... tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hopkin Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 432's ahhhhhhhhhh my personal "panzer" along with the 438's in the rest of the troop Built specifically to roast you alive in summer, freeze you in winter, tastefully adorned with steel projections to bash your brains out and a nasty habit of sliding sideways when the muppet in the driving street was contouring round a hill Never did manage to wangle one of the GT Versions with the GPMG Turret though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 That's very nerdish, Tim - but correct pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Privett Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Posted by Tim Hooper on 03/06/2015 19:10:19: Escort Mk3.... tim My initial reaction was "Haven't a clue" - but the rear lights are a bit of a give-away, Mk3 Escort for certain! (And that was before seeing Tim's post or Pete's confirmation. Without the rear lights though it would be anybody's guess! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Whybrow Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Escort MK3; it was the wheels that I got it from, confirmed by the rear lights. Sad, I know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spice Cat Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Perhaps the funniest part of this was the report that the tank suffered no damage. Wouldn't be much good if it did. As I recall at Augustdorf there was a barracks named after Erwin Rommel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hopkin Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 and that barracks is still called Generalfeldmarchal Erwin Rommel, but almost all the BAOR barracks were ex German ones, most built in the 1930's, The main barrack blocks in Churchill barracks in Lippestadt were ex Luftwaffe Flak Troops - The air raid shelters were still round the place, in the corridors the rifle racks were built to fit Mauser rifles and in the attics, there was a thick layer of sand as an anti-incendiary precaution and brick plinths with a few steps built in where air raid warden/fire watchers could go an poke their heads out through skylights I really dont think that much was done to them when they were taken over in 1945 and they sort of stayed that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bran Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 The rear door is another confirming point. (Not an Orion then!) A guy I knew back when they were current was joining the M1 northbound in a pool car. Hurtling down the slipway, late as always, he belatedly realised he'd timed it wrong and there was a full inside lane with nowhere to slot in. So, he stood on the brakes, hard...............with no thought of using the hard shoulder. Unfortunately in the large Mercedes following him the driver was looking over his shoulder accelerating and timing a gap. When I saw the car left in the yard (I was asked to cover him) the rear door lock had released in the initial impact, and the Mercedes had sledged its way under. the rear door. The rear bumper of the Ford was crushed up against the back of the front seats. No bodywork existed from those seat backs rearwards, yet the roof and rear door were as good as undamaged, glass still in rear door intact. He broke a few things but survived. The car however "might" have been a write off!!!........................... (The business did not have insurance, it lodged a large sum with the Ministry in lieu due to the huge size of its fleet.) I suppose the army had/has similar third party "cover", no actual policy held Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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