Phil Cooke Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Thought it would be a good idea to have a thread specifically for A-4 colourschemes, photos of the full size and details of stuff we may wish to employ on our models like cockpits, airbrakes, refuelling probes etc... Feel free to drop any relevant stuff in here. I'll make a start with an Airliners.net search filtered on the type - plenty to scroll through in here for inspiration! **LINK** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kettle 1 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Cheers Phil, I'll link this 'walk round' video on which shows a lot of detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Z Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 I drew up the Blue Angels graphics for my o.d. EDF Skyhawk, many moons ago. If anyone is interested, send me a pm. The darkish blue color was chosen to match the output of my then printer to the blue oracover as best as I could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Cooke Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 Thanks for the posting Max Z - those Blue Angels decals look great!! What scale was your O/D? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Cooke Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 In a moment of absolute clarity whilst cleaning the bathroom its dawned on me this morning that the movie 'Top Gun' is also celebrating it's 30th Anniversary this year since release - the very year the PSSA was formed! No further excuses needed - enjoy this few minutes of HD footage from the film, I know deep down this is what we have in our minds when we are thrashing our models low level along the ridge of the Orme (or is it just me?!) The A-4 shows its agility here, eventually ruining Maverick and Goose's day! Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil May Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 'Great balls of fire'Love it....Was it just coincidence with A4 choice Phil 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Cooke Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 Just a coincidence - but a great one none the less. Aggressor A-4s look great in these scenes. Inspirational! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Z Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Posted by Phil Cooke on 31/01/2016 10:59:45: What scale was your O/D? 700 mm span, don't remember the scale (too lazy to look it up...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Cooke Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 No probs - and was it a 70mm fan in the guts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirk tinck Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 hi all ! ordering mine today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Z Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 It was an early Wemotec Minifan, 69 mm dia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Cooke Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 Hey Dirk - great to know you are joining us on the mass build!! Numbers are growing fast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve McLaren Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Hi Dirk, Just ordered mine today too. So, are you planning to be there in September? And any of the other meetings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Houghton 1 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I'm ordering mine in a couple of weeks as I've already overspent my modelling budget this month. I've already decided on the Blue Angels colouring as my building and covering skills are still in their infancy, so simple colouring is the name of the game, and Navy grey could be a bit disorientating against a grey sky. With any luck, mine will be finished and maidened by June. I'm sure Big Phil won't mind lobbing it off one of the big hills at the Bwlch for me and capturing the moment on video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Jones Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Dirk, great to see you here and pleased you're joining the build! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Armstrong 2 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Posted by Steve Houghton 1 on 31/01/2016 22:47:48: I've already decided on the Blue Angels colouring as my building and covering skills are still in their infancy, so simple colouring is the name of the game, and Navy grey could be a bit disorientating against a grey sky. What tail number are you going for? I have also decided on Blue Angels (for the same reason). Need some differentiation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Houghton 1 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Hi Robert. I hadn't really got that far but I had thought about the following. I need to find someone who can produce decals/vinyl print for this in the correct size. If anyone knows of a service that can do this I would be grateful to hear from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Jones Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Steve, try Pyramid Models, he does all the bespoke stuff for Phil and I, his stuff is very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Houghton 1 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Posted by Matt Jones on 01/02/2016 10:35:17: Steve, try Pyramid Models, he does all the bespoke stuff for Phil and I, his stuff is very good Thanks Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Twist Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Hi All, Try this website for A4 Skyhawk information - its a fascinating resource full of all types of A4 details: history / ex-pilots tales/history/images /photos/ operations etc etc ... its a gold mine! Basically it's the website of the a4 association - for as they say ... "anyone dedicated to perpetuating the history of the A4." The dropdown boxes take you into lots of other facts - eg carrier ops. www.a4skyhawk.org First fact I picked up - the first flight of the A4 was - June 22nd 1954! From Edwards AFB! Regards H Edited By Harry Twist on 01/02/2016 23:24:24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Garsden Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Have joined this one, for ideas. I am planning to do the camouflage Isreal Air Force version, which has the different fin and bulge ie **LINK** Any chance of an alternative layout plan version Phil, so I have a drawing of the correct shape for the different type of fin and bulge? If not I will do it the version as per plan but it will not be to scale (Know how this offends) Andy Conway kindly helped me out with the Tornado when I needed different formers for my lost foam fuselage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Jones Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Peter, I'm doing the same airframe but different scheme. Phil won't need to redraw the plan as the changes are minimal. I'm going to make the hump from solid and the fin is dead easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Cooke Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 Hiya Pete, I drew the A4-E as a 'vanilla' A-4 variant, there are many mods and bulges and fin profiles which could be modelled on any individuals build - and this is all part of the fun - but I could only reasonably draw one plan for issue. As Matt says, both mods are very easy to add so long as you have scale drawing of the full size, a rule and a pencil. I will add a link to a decent Skyhawk 3-view drawing with the spine housing and revised fin profile shown - hoping you can work from that?? The fin is a simple 2D profile change. You would need to redraw just the fin top component from the woodpack as this is preshaped to reresent the earlier curved fin. As for the spine, it would be very simple to make from 2 3/16" side walls and a 1/2 sheet on top sanded to shape. It would glue very nicely to the top of the fuselage as it is quite flat along its centreline. Note the addition of the spine would need a revised trimming profile tot he vac formed canopy - and it would need to run into the fin leading edge extension. All simple enough IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Cooke Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 Pete, as promised heres a couple of 3-views... First, the A-4E, as drawn on the model plan. And heres the later A-4M variant with the spine hump. Note not only the squared off fin, but also the bigger canopy on this mark - revised framing for improves pilot visibility in combat. Some good panel line references here for the rivet counters!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Garsden Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Thanks very much Phil, very helpful. Will now go into the Newsagents next door and order RC Model World for 2 months. Panel lines - phew - just can't wait till I get to those. Just to reassure you I won't be placing an A-Z on the dash - a copy of the Daily Mail in Hebrew on the day of the launch - all to scale of course - NOT! What version are you doing Matt? If you do one similar we can do formation flying as we have done with the JP's? I am intending to use 25gram cloth then water based resin and Tamiya spray cans Have asked Tim at Model Markings to quote me for decals - Hebrew will be a challenge - not arf! Are you planing to approach Real Model Pilots Phil like we did for the Tornado - they were just brilliant. Mine definitely flew the model better than the fat gits in the JP who just sweated and disconnected their heads in a crash? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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