Tim Mackey Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Shaun Chant wrote (see)HOT PRESS!If anyone is interested in this model here's a great deal from FoamyJetsF16 with all the gearNow listen just stop this will you - I know I really dont need any more models on the board at the moment I dont, I dont, I dont..... oh god the force is strong today Luke.... NO !!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Winks Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 thats one the spell checker won't find go on tim give in you know you want to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchweight Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 Go on.... join the Wing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchweight Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 Rx installation as can be seen here, the aerials of the AR6100E are too wide for the fuselage. Should I:1) Drill holes to feed them into?2) Turn the rx through 90 degrees?3) Wrap them in a curve towards the front? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchweight Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 I saw the Phantom but can't find the flanker. Got a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchweight Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 I've trimmed the tail pipe and set up the tx. Can't wait for a nice day to maiden it! Timbo - what are your thoughts on the rx installation? I ask because of the proximity of the battery in this very small bay. The battery will have to go about mid point because of the weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Shaun Chant wrote (see)Rx installation as can be seen here, the aerials of the AR6100E are too wide for the fuselage. Should I:1) Drill holes to feed them into?2) Turn the rx through 90 degrees?3) Wrap them in a curve towards the front?Well personally I would just nake some tiny holes in the sides in line with the natural lay of the wires and gently poke them in. I have done this on several of my foamies and it works absolutley fine. Or as Jet says.... simply cut a fine slot down from the top edge and slide them in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Sharman Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Shaun, you've shown us the fan and tailpipe - nice (I like the transparent tube, you can see what you're doing). What is the inlet duct like?Oh, and what is the weight, now?Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchweight Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 I'll take a couple of pics tomorrow. But briefly, the inlet duct is a large moulding in the lower half of the fuselage. The run to the df is free of any obstructions, provided the esc and servo leads are put well out of the way. The lip of the inlet has a clear plastic guard to give it some strength. The tail pipe has a fairing over it to look more like the real thing, but the plastic tube extends past the end, and has now been trimmed to extend by just 2 or 3mm.I'll also weight it dry and wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy watson Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Just looking at the rx set up, do the antenna need to be at 180 degrees as you have them (as I think you said they should be in your crashed plane), or 90 (as mine are recommended)?If it's 180 the simply turning the rx through 90 degrees will allow them plenty of room.If it's 90 then shifting the rx to one side should allow one to come stright out, and the other to run across the fuselage without any cutting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Ah ha this debate again .... the aerials on this receiver should NOT be bent at all. Whether they cross the fuselage, or run parallel to its sides is not that important as for half the flight it will be orientated "wrongly" to the Tx and the other half correctly.... in either case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Sharman Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Shaun Chant wrote (see).....the DF has only 2 dabs to hold it in place........ So you're not planning on having to get the DF out at some stage? What happens if (when) the impellor loses a blade - easy to replace ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchweight Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 Like he said. By two dabs I really do mean two small blobs o epoxy holding the whole shebang in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Winks Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 The west wings Hawker hunter jetsome now that I want to see a review on. have they improved their instruction sheets yet? if their other kits are anything to go by it'll be quite a nice model. not suprised its taking some time though they are proper builders kits. a good thing in my books Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Sharman Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 JETSOME wrote (see).......when you have done what you wanted to do simply epoxy the removed part back where it was............master the technique of fibreglass skinning............ My experience of foam is that it is a menace once you start to modify, mend, adapt etc. epoxy adds weight and leaves an unsightly glue lines and ridges? And doesn't fibreglass resin disolve foam ? and dope too ? - it always used to on foam veneered wings unless you were very careful to ensure that it didn't leak into the wing joining slot. After many attempts, and not a few mishaps, I vowed never to use foam again! Good luck with the West Wings Hunter, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Winks Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 So your effectively scratch building the hunter then if you chat with west wings they will prob be able to supply any moulded parts you need. I'd be really carefull on the weight issue I'm aware that according to form it requires a bungee launch on the recomended set up so I'm guessing power is an issue wheeled drop tanks sounds like a smart way round the No under carriage / retracts question,of thread now had the day of today and weathers rotten so sat in my shed is the end result just need a motor and esc Yes its the sling wing from this months free plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchweight Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 As Richard asked for them here's a couple of detail shotsAnd the "dry" weight of the model, i.e. not battery is 440g. My batteries are 3S 2200mah lipos and weight 165g and 193g each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Sharman Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Shaun, thanks for the photos of the ducts - very interesting, and looking good! I like the shape of the front duct: nice big scoop, and nice rounded lip, so the omens are good - it should be an efficient EDF setup. I am worried about the strength of those pivots for the all-moving tailplane, though. This area can take some punishment when a model without u/c lands rough. Ready for the maiden flight? -- good luck!(to Jetsome, I'm very familiar with the use of foam in models, in all sorts of applications, and I agree that foam has it's place. I just don't like it as a structural fuselage material, but it you can get away with it, then good luck). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchweight Posted August 3, 2008 Author Share Posted August 3, 2008 Thanks richard. Too windy at the moment for me to maiden her, perhaps later. As for the tail. I haven't seen anyone lose one, but I have heard rumours, hence the ply doublers in addition to the supplied fairings/ reinforcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Sharman Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Jetsome, I am not prejudiced about foam, just sceptical; while foam is good in compression, it is poor in tension, often has poor surface finish, cannot be satisfactorially moulded or shaped by amateur tools, is sensitive to many glues and paints, does not resist damage well, and is not easy to repair to a high standard after damage. But it is light and can be used effectively in some applications. I note that this is Shaun's tactical fighter blog, not a foam vs built-up discussion. However, since you criticise me as "old hat" I have to point out that (a) full-size practice and model practice do not have any necessary connection since their respective flight regimes are rather different. What works for one will not necessarily work for the other. And (b) the best performing "jet" i have seen recently was the last model to fly at Cosford 2008 on the Sunday which outperformed any other by a wide margin (turbine or EDF). Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe this was of built-up construction, and had propellor at the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 OK guys - as Richard says... this is Shaun's build blog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Hasell Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 ShaunLooking good there have you had chance to fly her yet? Also i wanted to PM you but for some reason i dont have the option to on any of your posts is this your choice or is it my computer gremlins again.Was just wondering where abouts in shropshire you fly? can PM me back if you dont want to advertise that fact given your recent "experience" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Yes...guilty as charged your honour!However I was more concerned at the drift towards argument.... than drift off topic'twas only a gentle moderation Jet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Moderation in all things -including moderation Eh ! I,ll get mi coat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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