Stearman65 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I've looked through the BMFA lists but can't find anything, are there any such groups? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Watkins Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 There you go Eric, there are about 90 affiliated clubs **LINK** Edited By Denis Watkins on 03/11/2018 15:29:34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stearman65 Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 Posted by Denis Watkins on 03/11/2018 15:27:40: There you go Eric, there are about 90 affiliated clubs **LINK** Edited By Denis Watkins on 03/11/2018 15:29:34 Hi Denis. As I said I had been through the BMFA list, but haven't found any Electric only clubs. Regs Eric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor wood 2 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 BATS at Bramhall in Cheshire is silent flight and electric fixed wing only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stearman65 Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 Posted by trevor wood 2 on 03/11/2018 16:12:20: BATS at Bramhall in Cheshire is silent flight and electric fixed wing only. Hi Trevor, Do you have any further info, I've done a BMFA & Google search but come up with nothing? Regs Eric. Whoops senior moment, found them. http://batsflyers.bmfa.org/ Edited By Eric Shepherd on 03/11/2018 16:27:13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stearman65 Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 Posted by Percy Verance on 03/11/2018 16:37:32: Where would these electric only clubs need to be Eric? Are you thinking of a particular area? Hi Percy As I said on the heading, within 50 miles radius of Southport. Regs Eric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hargreaves - Moderator Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I'm intrigued...why Electric Only Eric? Most clubs these days have a healthy mix of both IC & Electric power.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stearman65 Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 Posted by Steve Hargreaves - Moderator on 03/11/2018 17:46:18: I'm intrigued...why Electric Only Eric? Most clubs these days have a healthy mix of both IC & Electric power.... Hi Steve I cut my teeth on I/C, I'm now in my late 70's & like peace & quiet when I fly. Regards Eric. Edited By Eric Shepherd on 03/11/2018 18:08:51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 They're all fitting sound systems these days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stearman65 Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 Martin & Tom I assume you are younger than me? I wouldn't want to stand in the middle of a field alone, I still relish the repartee of a group of like minded people. I think it's only one group of people fitting sound systems, such as warbirds & scale civilian aircraft. I don't know if you've ever experienced, silent flight in a full sized glider, I have & it's magical. Just the sound of the wind rushing across the canopy as the world unfolds beneath you, magical. I also have to wear two hearing aids. which play hell with noise from model engines. Switch them off you might say? but then it would be artificial & could be dangerous if there was an emergency & I couldn't hear. Each to his own. mine's a bit of peace now. Eric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I'm not sure I ever advocated going it alone - I'm a strong advocate of the benefits of club membership. Although my comment was made with my tongue firmly in my cheek, we have electric models at our club (not the odd one with a sound system fitted) that are as noisy as some IC models (and one or two much noisier specialist F5b ones). Now that power outputs equal to IC engines are commonly available, propeller noise is just as significant. In addition, a high proportion of engines used at most clubs are 4 strokes, which although registering similar levels to 2 strokes (assuming a club operates to the 82dB guidelines) are far less noticeable in the air - the days of screaming small engined 2 strokes at high rpm have largely passed us by at most clubs. If you haven't already done so, it could be worth popping in to some local clubs to get a feel for the atmosphere. Oh and yes, I spent many of my formative years in glider cockpits enjoying the sound of the air rushing past but much of it was spent listening to the audio variometer which rather removed any awareness of the wind noise. A glider cockpit isn't always a relaxed and quiet environment when you're scratching around at 600 feet over small fields! Edited By Martin Harris on 03/11/2018 21:22:59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stearman65 Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 Martin Check the link to Bats, it sounds like my kind of club. That's the last I have to say on the matter. Apart from, this it's a section in their constitution. (a) Any electric motors may be used. Internal combustion engines are NOT permitted. b) The energy source must not be more than nine nickel cadmium cells or 3-cell Li-Po or equivalent. c) Flying conduct will be with the intention of duration flying. d) Fast F5 types; hotliners, pylon racers etc. are not permitted. e) It must be possible to switch off the motor from the transmitter. Fail-Safes (if available on the radio system) should be set. Edited By Eric Shepherd on 03/11/2018 22:43:51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Sounds ideal for you. You should enjoy some relaxed flying there! I hope they will let you fly your models though - they appear to be a glider (and powered glider) oriented club. Edited By Martin Harris on 03/11/2018 23:32:05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Martin Harris - Moderator Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Unless it's changed recently, the wording regarding failsafes is "should", not "must" - suggesting a strong recommendation rather than a requirement. Edited By Martin Harris on 03/11/2018 23:49:22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stearman65 Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 Posted by Eric Shepherd on 03/11/2018 22:39:14: Martin Check the link to Bats, it sounds like my kind of club. That's the last I have to say on the matter. Apart from, this it's a section in their constitution. (a) Any electric motors may be used. Internal combustion engines are NOT permitted. b) The energy source must not be more than nine nickel cadmium cells or 3-cell Li-Po or equivalent. c) Flying conduct will be with the intention of duration flying. d) Fast F5 types; hotliners, pylon racers etc. are not permitted. e) It must be possible to switch off the motor from the transmitter. Fail-Safes (if available on the radio system) should be set. Edited By Eric Shepherd on 03/11/2018 22:43:51 Just delved further into the club constitution & the electric sport model size is limited to 56 inches, which rules out my proposed Top Models CZ Challenger. **LINK** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Watkins Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Eric, Over 40 years, in order to fly our inordinate Climate I have ready 6 foot span and over I/C for most weather Slope Soarers for those days the wind direction is that way on our slope Foamiies and Electric Balsa in 20" twitchy class that gives me great satisfaction building and flying in calm And 50gram to 100 gram for Indoor Your program does appear to limit your flying time somewhat in the UK Could you not compromise? And yes my club is in your age group as I too, and hearing aids left in the car for use at lunchtime in deckchair chatter Edited By Denis Watkins on 04/11/2018 15:06:33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stearman65 Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 Posted by Denis Watkins on 04/11/2018 15:05:01: Eric, Over 40 years, in order to fly our inordinate Climate I have ready 6 foot span and over I/C for most weather Slope Soarers for those days the wind direction is that way on our slope Foamiies and Electric Balsa in 20" twitchy class that gives me great satisfaction building and flying in calm And 50gram to 100 gram for Indoor Your program does appear to limit your flying time somewhat in the UK Could you not compromise? And yes my club is in your age group as I too, and hearing aids left in the car for use at lunchtime in deckchair chatter Edited By Denis Watkins on 04/11/2018 15:06:33 Hi Dennis Which club? Another plus for BATS which is now off the list incidentally, was the subs, under £40 + BMFA. Regards Eric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDD15 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Eric I am a current member of BATS. If you send me a friend request I can PM you my contact details and put you in touch with the Membership sec etc. New members are always very welcome, though we may be a bit of a trek from Southport. idd PS Gliders and electric gliders are unlimited in terms of wingspan so your CZ Challenger would be fine. In the hey day of Open glider contests many BATS flew 12 and even 15ft gliders at our site. The 56 inch span is aimed more at the sport electric models. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stearman65 Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 Posted by IDD15 on 04/11/2018 21:29:39: Eric I am a current member of BATS. If you send me a friend request I can PM you my contact details and put you in touch with the Membership sec etc. New members are always very welcome, though we may be a bit of a trek from Southport. idd PS Gliders and electric gliders are unlimited in terms of wingspan so your CZ Challenger would be fine. In the hey day of Open glider contests many BATS flew 12 and even 15ft gliders at our site. The 56 inch span is aimed more at the sport electric models. Hi IDD Message sent. Regards Eric. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stearman65 Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 Posted by Tom Sharp 2 on 05/11/2018 01:47:11: Does Formby model shop still exist? Good place to go for information if it still lives. In theory, yes. There is a web site with a notice that the site is under development, but I think that has been there for some time. Eric **LINK** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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