David Ashby - Moderator Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Our club is about to start pylon racing little warbirds but I wondered if anyone can help? Wingspan is 38" max with engines up to .36. I know there are the ATS Mustang fun fighters and the old Cambrian fun fighters but can anyone think of any other possible candidates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Perry Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 David, how about own-design stuff? Putting together a small model along the lines of a "foxjet" (36" span / .15 - .25) takes an evening and to modify the lines into warbird outlines is simple really. okay, they wouldn't be perfect scale but then you wouldn't mind whacking them around at balsa shredding speeds and heights. Added to which the total cost per airframe would be cheap as chips. If the whole club were to do it there are people out there who'd CNC cut kits for you arent there? This approach works extremely well up to your .36 sized models. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchweight Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Go leccy with the Ripmax Spit, 109 and Mustang! Cheap, cheerful and fast. Mine has 450w and is mental at full speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanN Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Aren't the ripmax kits a bit large for David's spec? Model Airplane News have 1/12 scale plans for P51 and ME109. Also a WIldcat - that one's very slightly oversize, at 38.5 span, but I'm sure you could lose 1/4" from each tip. House of Balsa do kits for P51, ME109, P47 & FW190, all of which fit the 38" requirement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Perry Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Re the leccy jobs...I'd assumed they wanted glow power. Those House of Balsa ones seem a bit small for DA's purposes, .01 - .12 sized///the biggest I can see is for a .20. I still reckon OD is the way to go - then everyone has the same, a sort of "single class racing" but with different marques. D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanN Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Sure, the HoB kits would need beefing up a bit if you wanted to shove a .36 upfront but you're not going to come across too many 3ft wingspan kits designed for that sort of motor I've got a smallish p51 kit of american origin in the rack. Can't remember manufacturer or size. Will dig it out when I get home & if it fits the bill I'll put that info on here. Also there was an old Radio Modeller plan for a Bearcat designed around a Veco 36. Again, I'll look it out and advise details Plus, from the Mainly Models combat kits the 109, Bearcat, and clipped wing Spit fit the bill If you go up to a wingspan in the region of 42/44" - hardly too big for the proposed motors - that opens up a lot more options, both re kits and plans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Perry Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Ian , i'd be interested in the availability of the 40 odd inch stuff if you have a source. D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Ireland Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Why not do as Peter Miller suggested some time ago. Get a bunch of club members to build the Miss Demeanor and use them for Pylon Racing. It's what the full-size was designed for anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanN Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 David (P), I don't have any special source. Was just suggesting that going up to 40" plus wingspan would widen the options. Ie could consider the entire Mainly Models, HoB, ATS and Cambrian ranges, rather than just the smaller planes from those manufacturers. Great Planes combat Corsair and P51 would also then qualify. M.a.n. 44" AT6 Texan plan, etc etc. I've dug around in the shed. The P51 kit I have is the HoB item. As supplied its only sheeted from LE up to the spar. If the wing was fully sheeted I reckon it'd do the job with no further mods. Suitability of the HoB P51 is backed up by an article in Jan 2006 M.a.n. in which they fit not only a 25, but also retracts Radio Modeller Sept 1988 had Bearcat free plan. 36" span, tapering wings = b* all wing area. Designer used .29 power. Bicycle clips and andrex probably essential flight box items for that one, especially considering the weight of the r/c gear in those days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Perry Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Thanks Ian. I agree with your thoughts though. D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanN Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Actually, I'm with you on the own design idea, given that the mortality rate would probably be higher than for "normal" flying. If I were doing this I'd probably use a plan to get the outline, get some foam wings cut, and build a slabsided box fuz with a bit of decking added. Cartoon scale, if you like. Failing that I'd probably use one of the Mainly Models kits, purely because they look like they'd be the quickest build. Can I ask what's the "foxjet" you referred to? That sounds like quick cheap fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Perry Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Foxjet is an old Galaxy models kit of 36" span. Its a cartoon style jet - swept wings, pointy fuz etc and designed for almost anything from an .09 up to a 20. I have flown them with all powers including electric (old speed 400) and PAW 149s. I have also loaded in the lead (Pb) instead and slope soared them. Servos on ailerons, elevator and throttle. The kits are cheap enough but the model is a cinch to replicate on your own anyway. If you have never flown a Foxjet and you fancy some cheap hilarity I would recommend one: it is certainly in my list of "models everyone should try before the final tranny switch is turned off". http://www.galaxymodels.co.uk/detail.asp?id=633&rootid=1|21#lift The last one I flew, last year, was in a high "g" turn when the nicad ejected itself. The model kept on turning and simply flew twp nice descending orbits: had it been level it would have landed, as it was the chinese landing was both spectacular and hilarious. Amazingly i found everything. Its a model to keep in the car, as they say, or more likely, just chuck it in everytime you go flying. I havent got one at the moment, but I do have the fuselage pieces for one so it wont be long! HTH david Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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