David Ashby - Moderator Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Grigg Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 A rather big bus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon burch Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Let's hope the people in the consortium buy it. I've got a few friends at Airbus who will be very happy to finally see this thing airborne. Cheers, Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James40 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Nice to see her actually flying even if it is a few years behind, but there again it's built by a Europeans so it will be. Can anyone else spot a few similarities between the A400 and the C-17, I wonder where they got their ideas from ? I hope it does make it into service, although the sensible and cost effective option would be more C-17s and new Hercs used as they are now in a hub and spoke role. A large turbo prop seems a step backwards and won't work as a strategic airlifter just like the J model Herc failed to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Clarkson Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 James, Have you been selling tail section plans to Airbus????? Agree though, can't see how that is going to be in the same league as the C-17! Ut oh, here we go, i feel an Airbus/Boeing discussion coming on here!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon burch Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 No point comparing a C-17 to the A400M, they are meant for completely different roles. You would never be able to land and operate a C-17 where the A400M is designed to work. Cheers, Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James40 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Actually thats not true Simon, the C-17 is capeable of landing on a 2700ft strip(650ft more than a Herc) at an all up weight of 585,000lbs (almost 4 times that of a Herc), tactically if you so desired, you can deploy all 4 thrust reversers in flight, combine that with full speed brake and flaps and you can achieve a sink rate of 20,000ft/min, it's quite a handy big bird. You wouldn't put a C-17 through the abuse a strip landing inflicts on the airframe though, look at our Herc fleet , they are all almost life ex due to the stress that sort of landing puts on the wing. A C-17 is far to valuable an asset to do that sort of work. Your absolutely right though, the C-17 is a strato lifter where the A400M will be an in between, capeable of carring the Armys range of larger vehicles that they now use and doing the donkey work the Hercs do so well but not really a long range transporter as they are trying to sell it as. It is something we require, it's just a shame it's a project thats been on the drawing board for 40 years and it's still behind. Don't get me started on Typhoon (Baboon) or we'll be here all day on that waste of space ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Clarkson Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 What about the Typhoon James?????? hee hee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Chaddock Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 It was only when I read up about the A400M that I realised the outer engines rotate inwards whereas the inners rotate outward, but then with over 7000 hp going into each prop the torque is likely to be significant!Edited By Simon Chaddock on 15/12/2009 23:17:44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Chaddock Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Sorry correction - its over 11,000 hp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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