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  1. Does the Southport club fly at Woodvale, or somewhere else. Will the Woodvale event ever return?
  2. Erfolg

    Electric Cars.

    I do wonder what or why there are so many small Evs available in Italy, although not in the UK. Could it possibly be non compliance or perhaps vested interests. It is obvious from a UK perspective that problems with EVs sale requirements, that the PSA group, openly stating that they will not pay sales tax on IC cars, if the EV sales do not cover potential sales. The IC sales will not happen. A knock on consequence is the viability of the UK manufacturing plants. Apparently new investments are continuing at other non UK locations, by PSA and others. At the same time EV sales are flat lining both here and the rest of the world. You can be certain that similar views and actions will be taking place with respect to the UK for all vehicle sales . A number of EU based manufacturers seem only wishing to sell high cost EVs here. Often to my eyes, the size of tanks (and weights). There have been indications by some, that the UK has or was seen as a way to recover the high cost of Evs, due to, or via, our early adopter strategy. Pushing back by 5 years has reduced the opportunity by the EU to use the UK as the Milch Cow. I did not anticipate the difficulty of Ev batteries would be used as a basis of for increased insurance premiums. So much seems to be the consequence of very fast transition to Electric. It disappoints me that for vehicles that charging arrangements (plugs) is still so variable. Perhaps a single plug type and smart chargers are required. Every day it seems a new battery technologies is announced, last week a battery that charges half the time than existing types and at a much reduced cost (no mention of operating life).
  3. Erfolg

    Electric Cars.

    When in Rome there were a lot of small electrics similar to the Silence. I Goggled the various brands, they were all reasonably priced, the country of origin was not immediately obvious, not one was on sale in the UK. The problems for UK EVs seem to be increasing. The speculation with respect to tariffs on Chinese vehicles and batteries. The higher insurance costs due to right offs, where little obvious damage has occurred, Maintenance charges being higher than e solution. expected, greater than IC cars. Reports of very high tyre wear. as low as 10,000miles. The real elephant is the treasury considering how to replace fuel duty, road fund, vat etc . Apparently it is now acknowledged that the 2 ton Evs are increasing road damage and wear, with the utilities that their infrastructure is being damaged at a greater rate, due to, blah, blah. Apparently increased duties on fuel, would be a stealth tax increase, rather than a gap filling It has not been helped by the EU, pushing back and suggestions further push backs on I|C restrictions may be moved back yet another 5 years to 2040.
  4. Monaco is less a race, more about qualification. Felt for Chico, the suggestion that there is and was a reluctance to implement a penalty as the potential offender would almost certainly be suspended, again calls into question the authorities and vested interests, than consistent impartial decisions. As for being bottom.😢
  5. Grumpy, It is the same story wherever you live, all the amenities require substantial supervision, amenities, and a CPA (critical path analysis) with multiple hold points. Just like the joke of how many .......................................... Our upgraded (rebuilt road) has still not opened, still on track, in its 2 year programme, after 4 years, revised to lower scope (deleted spur), County Council time limited part of fund withdrawn, Boris Johnson replacing and supplanting the withdrawn funds, the contribution from a house builder also withdrawn (when the spur was deleted) as the housing limit would not be reached. Now our MP has resigned, due to a event that has made national news (the ironies is that the road would never have reached its current stage without his push) now there is a pending General election. And still no road, yet cycle lane roadworks has further increased difficulties for the locals (mostly for born again holiday cyclists, this aged once upon a time cyclist, cannot believe there behaviour quite often. Ah who has been flying? I made it on Saturday, all by my lonesome. Sunday I could barely get in our car park, the whole of the club was there, so it seemed. For me a good day, my rebuilt Wot 4e (new ply body) has flown successfully for the first time. Just took a new motor, 9g ( metal geared servos). As a precaution I had taken 3 other models (often flown). The sun beat down mercilessly. Went home, went to my daughters for dinner. A really successful no work for me day. Yesterday and today continuous rain with high winds.
  6. I do not know if any one else noticed (watched the highlights again) that both the McLaren and Ferrari following Verstappen exceeded the track limits consistently on one or maybe more corners. I expect that RB will be bringing any observation to the officials notice. We did not want a repeat of a past event where the stewards composition was queried, then being seen as to Anglo Saxon in composition. Are RBs easy wins behind them, if so it did not last as long as the Mercedes dominance. Verstappen needs a better team mate, than his present one, to keep the pursuing hoards at bay, as the unwritten team interest prevailed at Mercedes.
  7. OMG, Every one and their dog is here, clogging the roads, and car parks. Praise the Lord that human beings are averse to walking, if they were not, outside my house would be stacked high with vehicles. I went to the field on Saturday, word had got out, I was the only person present. No bad thing as I was able to fly three models in complete quite, confirming that in general all three no longer had any obvious issues. Flying a glider I was a little disappointed that not a single Buzzard was to be seen. I did work out that about 400 feet there were wide spread thermals that were transient. It was observing the flight patterns of Gulls that educated me. The thermals originated (that I could potentially use) in an adjacent field, where the farmer or his contractor, had killed of the central crop, now brown earth. Returning on Sunday, it was a different story, all of the club must have thought, he will not fly two days consecutively, as the rest of the club were present. I only flew two models. There was a reason, the wind had shifted to the South and grown in strength. At our field I find that this causes problems, as wind shear at both ends generates turbulence. For those models which have an abundance of power, it is of no issue, as they are airborne within a yard or two whilst in the wind shadow (from trees at the rear). For my models with longer take of runs and some others, emerging into the turbulence and wind shear, causes much stirring of the sticks. At present I have seen little visual evidence of wild life, returning after winter. Just the one, house or sand Martin. There is a resident Pheasant (now the farmer has banned the shooting club), that appears on the track. At my previous club, there were hares, lapwings, foxes (that would trot passed, or even sit and watch). in addition to Buzzards, some bird of prey that would consistently sit on telegraph poles or low voltage power lines. I am hoping to see more, as the summer progresses. How to get home was the next priority, as the few roads and lanes around here are packed at weekends with citizens who are abandoning their cities for the sea side. I made my decision, spending the most time inching my way home for the last mile. It was a good day, chatting with other club members, observing their new models, although I do disapprove of those noisy smelly things that some fly. Now the field has been cut twice in as many weeks, my wheeled models can once more be flown, rather than requiring a fling and a prayer.
  8. Ron has pointed out that nothing is new or is being claimed. This is my old contribution, in the good old days of Barcs and 100s, there was at least one kit that used "Blue Foam" for wings, uncovered. It was common practice to use "Christmas type present wrapping Paper", using simple PVA. The arrangement was incredibly strong. I do not remember what was used to protect the paper, there was no WBV back then. Protections was necessary as comps were run even when raining, paper does not like being wet. I had a conventional wing pop (under a monster tow), due to a day of being wet during a comp (it was covered with a plastic sheet), Damp weather in the past could soften PVA. With respect PVA, it seems that in essence it is like saying steel, could be a low carbon, high carbon, or with alloys. PVA know seems to be so broad, that it is difficult to predict how different, under what circumstances. An example is a PVA (D4) I have used (recently)will not be reactivated if heated with a iron, to use to reseal iron on film. In the past basic PVA could be used for the purpose. At present I use Gorilla white (PVA), because I can easily purchase it, not sure it dilutes well, though. Experimentation may be required.
  9. The majority of what we purchase for our models originates from China or the Far East. The retail purchase price in the UK is determined by and large by the retailer needing to make a profit (after all costs), and the Governments taxes (vat, any duties and handling charges). It is not due to the so called subsidies or dumping allegations. The business model of Ali baba and even Amazon, now pays the requisite duty, to the UK (Customs and Excise), any agents in the Far East, whilst cutting out UK middle persons (whoops that should be man). Now we see a substantially lower prise. One of our problems is that we are now a niche hobby, of low numbers. In the mean time I am getting ready a number of my models for tomorrow.
  10. We are all pretty close to each other, unfortunately, there will many changes.😢
  11. Yes Mr G. Although not particularly relevant to the failure, I had forgotten that this again was new motor. The previous motor was not powerful enough, running on full power it was just about adequate, melting, partially, the plastic moulded stand of. It was looking at the ply spacer, that jogged my memory, whilst taking the screws out of the ply. I am sure that the prop was balanced, after +6 months I cannot be certain. It will be checked. Other than out of balance prop, I hope it is not a resonance issue. Again I will do a ground run, hopefully not to replicate what ever went wrong.
  12. A couple of pictures of the motor cross piece that failed. I am now starting the replacement process maximising the mounting. I was worried that the motor threads had stripped, they seem OK.
  13. My wife is on her way out, to another golfing competition, her parting words are, "get out" and "no more moaning about the road works, pot holes". If I ever Would? At lunch time I go. Having negotiated another set of temporary traffic lights, dodged more pot holes than the Somme in 1914. How in my childhood the Brits would scof at Belgium roads. I arrive at the gates to the track leading down to our field, the gate is closed, although unlocked, with a large white van parked inside, just of the track. It seems a posh van, having what appears to be blacked out window. Two guys are standing near by, a large quad/drone sits on the ground, the two guys appear to have a lap top and mobile phone which appears to be swung this way and that. One guy offers to close the gate after me, he seemed pleasant enough> I am in no mood for an argument, I descended the track, having spotted a model in the air sometime earlier, now confident my pals had not succeeded in avoiding me. Turning into the car park, only one SUV, the rest knew I was coming. What do have I have with me, a model I have just re-motored, a long standing faithful, a newish model, a Canard ( now prehistoric) and my Sagitta. What to fly first? Has to be my re-motored, rock steady model, it will be able to all the things that the lack of power prevented. The attempt from the ground, promptly fails, I try again, the grass is still to long. A hand launch is the answer, which ends in disaster, hmmmm, that was a lot of power, you are bit slow on the sticks and it is no longer a pussy cat. Take the kit back to the car, carefully in case I loose anything. Ah, the answer is old faithful, I was correct, took of, flew circuits, looped, rolled, 1/2 Cubans, that is more like it, even the landing was a nice rumble from HK light weight wheels. Now I am cooking with gas, other than we only have electric. My newish model is next. Takes of with Gusto, do a few circuits. Now it is time for a loop, then something else. Open the throttle, a cacophony of noise erupts. My helper speaks, that does not sound right. I say is the prop stalling. Hmmm something is not right we agree, time to land. On landing all is not well, there is now a lot of down thrust. A more careful examination reveals a broken motor mount, how broken is not immediately obvious. Then I think the motor shaft is bent, then it is apparent the prop is barely hanging on. Oh well it is Canard time, never fails, whatever the weather, totally dependable. Initially all is going well, about two minutes into my 7 minute flight, I am at full throttle. No, no, what now. I land immediately. A pretty thorough cell, volt investigation, all seems well. A motor run on full power, it is apparent that the power quickly declines. Another cell check, the volts have collapsed, on one cell. Conclusion, new Lipo is required, the long winter hibernation was not good for it. I now start the journey home, only to be confronted by the big van, he pulls over, by the farmers fertilizer pile, to let me pass, indicates, for me to speak, window to window. It then becomes apparent that they are contractors working for the grid, surveying for hot pots and other issues with the local pole type distribution system. They are concerned that I would lock them in. The jouney home was without incdent, other than school finishing, parked vehicles everywhere, lolly pop men leaping out. Not being prone to moaning or being grumpy it all passes over me with just a few comments and observations, that back in my day.....................................
  14. I am guessing that the others tyres were some laps older, by a significant margin. On that basis all had undertaken the mandatory one different ( hardness) tyre change, and that was Landos first? I am not sure that the safety car as typically used is a little like introducing a random effect, a little like snakes and ladders. The Virtual Safety Car, seems much fairer, in that no advantage is arbitrary gained or lost.
  15. There does appear to have been some issue with the safety car. Not that I completely understand what, really happened. Superficially appears that Lando Norris benefitted from a new set of tyres, that non of the other drivers benefitted from. I suspect that played a big part in Verstappen, not being able to challenge for the lead, there could also have been fuel usage issues, for all our knowledge. As a spectacle Miami worked, like the Super bowl and many other USA events, As a race, I am not convinced. Although to my surprise safety was not the issue I suspected. The track appears to be particularly prone to drivers being pushed of, by drivers they are passing, Where as those being passed, seem to see a benefit, from ensuring that the pass is not completed. Not a Miami fan. From Verstappen's view point, he was lucky to have made it to the 2nd corner. It is probably Nando's turn to get a degree of luck.
  16. Colin, it is a ordinary, wheeled Bosch, rotary. I now know that i am old, in that I have come to enjoy gardening, almost like weeding. I have been surprised that the garden responded so well, as for many months it has been to cold, windy or wet, with me being reluctant to spend above 15-20 minutes outside. Those who have corresponded with me on gardening matter know I have little knowledge with respect to plants. A couple times a year we are visited by one of my wives friends, who tells me what I am doing wrong or need to do. Last year I came close to killing a new apple tree, because I was not watering it and so on. I have just resigned from undertaking a local role on behalf of our area, because I am to old, and a sudden demise although will not be welcomed by me, for others it would have caused problems. This period of poor weather has concerned me, in that it is not conducive to getting non modellers thinking, I would like to obtain a model aircraft, as a consequence joining a club, leading to BMFA membership. There are consequences for the model retail trade. On that basis I am happy when lots are posting about being out flying. Would I be flying if my wife did not force me out of the house, prising my finger tips from the door frame. Plus I get to talk to other grumpies at the field.
  17. It is 4 years since I did anything on the 335. Why, hmm, it was the exhaust stacks. The RBC plan does not show location or the detail necessary to produce them. I have allowed myself to become distracted on other new models, just now I had started building a He 162, designed a Douglas X3 all from Depron. I have become diapointed with the Depron I now have, finding it a pain and of poor quality (from a modelling perspective). So these went on the back burner. I then started to think about all the models I have not finished for a whole variety of reasons. I the case of the Dornier it was a lack of information of the real aircraft. I have seen the full size, when in Munich, of course I did not note the exhaust or take any pictures. It was the size of the thing, a rather, or is that a vey large fighter. More the size of the Hampden bomber (the one at Cosford). I now have a whole pile of books with details of aircraft in them. It seems that unlike a Spitfire the exhaust stacks do not stick out very much from the body. That there is an internal shroud or baffle that separate the pipes from the the rest of the internals. A external cover then seals the exhaust, with the pipes barely sticking out. I had assumed that pipes were round, but they transition into a rectangle. Eventually I sketched up what was wanted, only to realise that I did not now how to 3d design the things. Rather than seek perfection, I have drawn up as near as I can manage the items and then printed them. Installing them has not been a two minute job of sticking them on the outside. It is about letting the items in. My next job is the Fuel injection inlet. Yet again, a pretty much bulky item. Everything else will just have to wait.
  18. I thought these pictures may be of passing interest. The first is of the clevis that failed on landing on Saturday. It is over 40 years old, the landing itself was pretty ordinary. The significant issue seems to be age. I recently (in the last 2 weeks) replaced the rudder plate type hinges, as I noted that one had failed (part of the preparation of the current flying). I thought, I have a pile of these left over from, the dark ages. I will just take out the pin, ease out the sheared plate, replace it with one half of an unused Kavan hinge. I found the old packet of hinges in the draw of one of those storage boxes that many of us have. Only to find that the unused assemblies were brittle, breaking on handling. All of these have gone in the bin. It is not the first time recently that I have found that many of the old plastic bits have deteriorated. The clevis seems to be a Micro Mold item, my remainder have also gone into the bin. It can be seen that the pin has sheared as has the limb that the pin was attached to. Unlike what environmentalist tell us, these polymers do not seem to have a life of thousands of years. Even when stored in a dark drawer, never having seen a solvent ESC, Environmental Stress Cracking) or even sunlight , photon Mer breakages. The picture is of the garden that convinced me that the weather was pretty much perfect for flying. Plus the help of whoever directed me to a Plant recognition App, has helped me a lot in weed (unwanted pant) eradication. I am often happier in the garden, than on a wind swept flying field, this time of year so it seems.
  19. It is Wednesday, the other half has gone to play Golf, nine holes mind you, does not feel up to 18. In my case, I cannot decide, is the weather good enough, I remain concern with how rusty I feel, I note that the garden is pretty dry, the wind is light, so it seems, the weather forecast said it would be 8 mph again, as on Saturday. Once again I motor to our field, turn onto our track, suddenly I become aware of a large semi-detached house to my left. I glance across, a tractor, pulling a plough, with what appears to be a grain silo, is racing along by my side. OMG isn't farm equipment gargantuan today? Any way it further reinforces my conviction that the ground is drying out rapidly, on this clay soiled hill side. It is sand by the coast. Turning into our field, there are two vehicles there, a 4*4 and a small car. I have obviously upset some one, as the 4*4 leaves. Is it BO (remember the advert), do I use the wrong tooth paste, Have I said something, is it because I now self identify as a Giraffe, and rightly expect all address me with the wright pronoun, or is it adjective. I now watch a model in flight, that seems to be tossed about, the wind feels a lot higher than 8 mph. My wind gauge (anemometer, for the technical) tells me that it is peeking at 20 mph (being old, and not metricated), with a lower of about 12 mph. My colleague confirmed that it is bumpy. Another modeller arrives, we all agree it is very cold. I have come all this way, and I make the big decision I will fly, well, the once. The field is pretty firm now, although the cutting that were left on the field are enough to decide that it will not be a wheeled model, I am not convinced that it is glider weather, particularly with a northerly wind, which is 90 degrees to our runway, landing without going behind the flight line will be a problem. Which means it is my faithful Canard. Launching into wind, the model seems quite well behaved, turning cross wind, it is a different story, the model, rocks, then rolls, pitching up, followed by a down. Slowly I come to terms with what is happening, I need to apply much more power, I also note that down wind turns take a very large radius, plus a lot of pitch down. Into wind is very different, tight and pitch up. By the end of the 8 minutes, I have come close to mastering the vagaries of the truculent weather. Just a cross wind landing to make, I piled on the speed, ploughed through the wind shear, turbulence from adjacent trees, and make a forced like landing, much to my relief. The new arrival, now takes to the sky, with his gyro equipped model. The gyro seems to have some issues, the model less than steady. After an eternity the model lands. the modeller saying immediately, that was most unpleasant. My fingers have turned white and painful from the cold wind. I am going home. Yes, yes, this is the excuse that I was looking for, us Giraffes do not like the cold. It is time to go home, as Andy Pandy would say.
  20. I am suspecting that all of our teams are similar, given the results
  21. It is Friday night dinner, the better half has returned from Bowls, having won, receiving a £4 price. You are now a professional I quip. The reply is the green was reasonable not that heavy. Then, I see the weather forecast for tomorrow is light wind (8 mph), 0% rain. You should fly at your club field. I have now developed a standard flustered reply of, Oh, the track will be muddy and the field a marsh. Saturday morning arrives, i load the car with three models. I have been thinking about this moment for a little while. Although I now have a number of new models that need test flying, prudence indicates that the way to go is with models that I trust as dependable and predictable. That is now in the car, all the batteries were charged about a week ago. The drive to the field had little of note, other than the old roundabout, which had temporary traffic lights for about a fortnight, is now reopened. All that has changed, there is now a footpath around it, never seen a single pedestrian, out in the Lancashire wilds. The gate to the field is unlocked, I can see the guy in the light blue jacket in the long distance. The track itself is now completely dry. I turn into the field, wondering how many more of us will be here? Once again not a vehicle is to be seen, this gate is also locked. My spirts plummet, then rebound, there is no one to heckle. Hmm, which model to fly first, or at least try and fly. Not having flown since November, I am not confident,. I decide on my Canard, imaginatively named Ente. The hand launch goes without a hitch. I had decided that I would only fly circuits. I was a little surprised that I noted that the model was continuously flying with a wing wobble, very similar to my tailless models as they near the stall. Much of the circuit flying was concentrated on positioning the model for a landing, as the slight cross wind, hedge requires a bit of planning. Just as the 7 minute timer alarms, I am aware that I have very little power. I almost panic, deciding it matters little as there is just me here. The model landed, pretty much where I intended. Model Number 2 is now readied. The field having been mowed, the grass clipping are every where like Sea Weed on the beach. I am a little doubtful that this 40 year old model will cope with the drag from the grass. Full power is given, the full 500w pulled, the model lurches forward and tips on its nose, all three wheels festooned with grass. A second attempt is made, a little up to ease the nose and wheel up, the model accelerated away, I feed more and more up in, almost running out of space, with full up, the model staggers into the air. I have now learnt (the hard way) that That full up must be released, almost down instated, until the model is actually flying, rather than being semi-stalled. The rest of the flight is without hitch, other than the circuits are again about positioning for the landing. The third model selected was my 2m Sagitta (now electrified), again some 40 years old. It is last, as I have undertaken a modification to the all flying tailplane. Have I made a hash of it, or is the result adequate. The answer is at least adequate. The first time for many years it is much easier to control. I stayed quite low for some time, finding not one bit of lift, apparently in continuous sink. With time I gravitated to much higher altitude, and started to believe I was finding some Ok air. The higher altitude allowed me to look around for Gulls or perhaps a Buzzard. Yep, the Gulls were about, thermalling, upwind, so high no way would I be able to power up to them, or even be within 1000 feet of them. Then I started eking out some good air over the field, then a boomer, the model started climbing like a home bound angel. I was starting to worry, this could easily tun into panic, particularly when I could hear a light aircraft, somewhere near, I could not find it immediately. A decision was made I was coming down, I moved away from the thermal, expecting the model to start descending in sink. I had moved a good 1/4 of a mile away, it was not descending. These old model were not allowed airbrakes, just rudder elevator. There was nothing for it, put the nose down, descend in a highish speed dive. By now I had located the light aircraft, it was behind me at probably +600 feet. Non the less I continued the descent to landing. Picking the model up I found that the very old plastic clevis had sheared across itself, due to the forced landing (which in the day was standard practice, to avoid the wind tipping the model over etc). My timer indicated just over 30 minutes, in itself no great triumph with an electric motor. Yet for the first time out, was a feeling of, yes, there is life in the old dog yet. The clevis was a SLEC item, I have also just repaired (replaced) some Kavan plate hinges, which also had sheared. I think the issue is that these old plastic have finite life. The journey home was without incident.
  22. Paul Snap! Being on the coast (I live almost on the beach), whereas our field is approx, 6 miles inland (10 miles by road) on a slight ridge overlooking the sea, it is almost always windy, from all directions. If the drone issue and consequent restrictions had been imposed, I could have flown of the beach, or sand dunes (except for the holiday and dog walkers). It is arguable that I could fly from the beach if I walked away about 1/2 a mile out, just outside the 5 mile radius of the local airfield and a aircraft manufacturer. I have been tempted to try this option, although it could be fraught with challenges, as I could just pop out for a short flight. Along with many others on this thread, I am being thwarted by the weather and a waterlogged field and farm track. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! And the wind still blows at +15-25, hailstone, rain showers and very cold, where is the Global warming?
  23. Hmmm, I can see Daiseys (in English), see Iso Freight Containers, where are the roses and castle or is it town? I guess you are by the side of a river, the Rhine, perhaps the Amstel, these are the only rivers I know, as being in the Netherlands. Oh, to be well travelled, I did once take the Rhinegold from Rotterdam to Koln once, does it count, taxied for hours at Skipol (I thought is this how we are getting to Manchester, is the North sea a problem (is there a tunnel, I pondered). Any way, we seem to all be discussing the weather, what has passed, and what is coming😢. Here on the Fylde, the very strong winds, and tide, drove the waves right up to the sand dunes. As for our flying field, I have not gone near it now for two or more weeks, due to the wind and rain. Another good reason, is the last time I was there, the wheel arches of my car were pretty much filled with mud, it took a 120 mile round trip, in appalling rain, for it to be washed away. It did save me getting the hose pipe and jet wash out. The golf course (a links) next to me, had a number of golfers out on it this morning, although bitterly cold, and a strong northly wind. My wife's club still closed for play, as it is on clay, on a flood plane. I will provide further run downs on the weather🙄. In the meantime I am assembling and readying my and launch models, as I am guessing the grass will be rather long, and getting the mower, to do its thing, without leaving furrows could be a long time coming. 😢
  24. One issue I have not as yet resolved, in my mind, is arming the model. Do you remove the wing, arm, then refit the wing? Or is arming completed another way?
  25. I started having cold feet when I realised that a 4000 Lipo is required, then started thinking most if not all my similar sized models use 2200 Lipo. On a positive note the long nose with the 4000 Lipo should mean that no Pb (lead) will be required, what ever. Another issue going through my mind is finishing. I still prefer dope and tissue. Although I recently experience a problem with some tissue I purchased. From memory, it was eco friendly , being recycled paper. I found that the short staple length, compared to model span, resulted in unequal growth when wetted, that pre wetting, caused partial disintegration, on drying out on the model left patched, creases. You certainly need to be careful of where or from whom you by it. Now that Solar film has gone, the remaining branded products make even balsa sheet, seem to be low cost. Webbies is to far to go to see if they have any suitable matt grey or green Chinese/Vietnamese film. Although I have used (and still have considerable amount of ) light weight cloth, using either WBV or finishing Epoxy resin would push up the finished weight by to much, to be bearable. I have recently used laminating film, although I found that paint adhesion was not great, needs some form of surface etching to finish well. On this basis what did you use? I even looked in the hope that there was a big wing variant on the A10a.
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