Phil May Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 I have been thinking about having a go a gliding, the idea is if it's to windy for my ic models then maybe there is an alternative - gliders. I have no idea what type of model is best to start off with, powered or non-powered .I live in Gwent, South Wales so there is no shortage of hills to "throw" it off ( I know there is a bit more to it than that ) I use a Futaba 6EX 2.4 radio, is this ok to use or not? It's obvious that I have no idea about this side of model flying, so i'm just after a rough idea of models and costs etc. I have been lead to believe that a few guys at my club enjoy this side of the hobby and I am making enquires about contacting these, but for now any advice would be welcome. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 SAS wildthing. Search the forum...loads of info and reasons to buy one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peewhit Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Futaba six channel is more than adequate as it would cope with elevator, rudder, ailerons and flaps. Go for a 60" Wildthing if you have room in the car as they do fly better than the 46". Set up elevon mixing and use the elevator dual rate function to reduce the "elevator" movement of the elevons. Two standard full size servos needed and about four hours from start to flying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slopetrashuk Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Oh for gods sake guys.....Wildthing, wildthing, wildthing...... There are actually other models in the world you know. Open your mind a bit and find out a bit more info first. If Phils a jet jockey, 3d pilot or heli man he's gonna nod off while flying a wildthing! Come on then Phil - Are you a 'builder' or a 'flier' and what is your flying ability with a powered model? Andy (hoping you're not a novice who needs a wildthing.....)Edited By Slopetrashuk on 04/03/2010 18:47:55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 big phil-up here in the land that time forgot-i started to fly glider's 2 year's ago-this after flying ic for the previous 18 year's....i had heard people on about it and after giving it a go i bought a 'zagi' by j perkins.....it is a flying wing and cost in the region of £34.00..can be built ready to fly in a couple of night's...uses two servo's and is very forgiving when you hit the groung etc......my recomendation to you ...have Fun.. ken anderson..ne 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil May Posted March 4, 2010 Author Share Posted March 4, 2010 Thanks chaps, i must admit I would like to build at some time, but for now ARTF is for me. At the moment I fly a Big Stk 60 and a Panic bipe, not quite a novice but still only a few steps up the learning ladder. I will take a look at what has been suggested, may thanks. BP Edited By Big Phil on 04/03/2010 20:24:01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Matthews Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 I'm also voting for the Wildthing 60. It's virtually indestructible, can fly in winds of 10mph to 25mph, can be any colour you like, is responsive, and the most fun to be had by males over 50! To counter this glowing summary, it doesn't penetrate well in higher winds and isn't the most efficient glider. Just to be totally offbeat, an EasyStar is suprisingly good as a slope trainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Burgoyne Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Posted by Slopetrashuk on 04/03/2010 18:46:51:Oh for gods sake guys.....Wildthing, wildthing, wildthing...... There are actually other models in the world you know. Open your mind a bit and find out a bit more info first. If Phils a jet jockey, 3d pilot or heli man he's gonna nod off while flying a wildthing! (hoping you're not a novice who needs a wildthing.....)Edited By Slopetrashuk on 04/03/2010 18:47:55 is this weasel de ja vu .............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slopetrashuk Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Hey Andy, How's it going? Getting down to your place about once a week atm. Must drop in for a brew....... Weasel de ja vu? No not really. Can't imagine anything worse though that an experienced flier wanting to cross over to the best flying discipline and ending up with a basic model and a limited flight envelope when they could have had much more. I've had first time slopers (long time power fliers) on the hills before and once they get used to the whole crosswind thing (after like 10 minutes) they're ripping about with 3m mouldies like they own the place! Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Burgoyne Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 yeah ..just let us know when your about ,,if ya wolves way im there 1 week in 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slopetrashuk Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 So Phil, You live by the fastest mountains in the UK, fly a panic biplane and want an ARTF glider........ Slope soarers are generally split into two 'classes'. Foamies and Crunchies. Or more simply models that don't bounce well and models that do. True slope soaring ARTF models tend to fall into the crunchy category. These are split once again into woodies and mouldies, or again if you prefer, traditionally built models and composite built models. Composites fly the best but don't crash well, woodies crash better and fly great but don't bounce as well as foamies. I would not advise any newcomer to slope to have a mouldie as his first slope soarer, not until he as least got the knack of landings and how the slopes work. Models like the Stargazer however can take a Panic biplane flier onto the hillside in a couple of hours and give him something he can aerobat around. Other artf gliders like the searcher series tend to be more thermal soarer orientated and true ARTF slope gliders in the traditionally built format are really quite hard to find. There are however some good ARTF foamies (the Wild thing is by far from ARTF as are most slope soaring foamies) but these are newer Elapor type models (the easy glider and the weasel evo) and can also be thrown together very quickly and don't require covering. Trouble with those is that their performance is limited in bigger winds and on even the smaller of the gwent hills the compression up the slope will increase the wind speed on the lip (where you will launch) even though the laminar air might be moving quite slowly. These are not the days you say you're looking to go slope soaring. If however you are prepared to knock out a foamie build (PU glues, fibre tape covering and a chunk of profilm) there are loads of models you can chose from, including the wild things and the Zagi's. You might however consider picking up a second hand model from your mates if you really want to get into the air quickly and fly that until you decide on where you want your slope soaring to take you. Probably best at this stage to hool up with them and go have a fly. You will have a much clearer picture at the end of the day. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Blimeys.... trying out a new keyboard or summat Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slopetrashuk Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Cabin fever - Stooopid Easterlies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Yeh....know what you mean Still at least the building area is getting attention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Lloyd Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Yeah - and it looks like we have at least a week of 'em Damn these Easterlies!Edited By Matthew Lloyd on 05/03/2010 14:49:33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony4147 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I'm new to gliding, started out late last year, I bought a Stargazer 2 and I'm happy with it, got me started, I've just bought a second hand Luna to progress a bit more. I'm not new to RC, flew Helis about 12 years ago. The Stargazer 2 flies nicely, I've not dumped it yet and would want to as it doesn't feel that strong, there again you can pick up a new one for just over £50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Not just picked it up at a real bargain price via BMFA adverts have ya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony4147 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Posted by Timbo - Administrator on 09/03/2010 13:23:39:Not just picked it up at a real bargain price via BMFA adverts have ya? Yeah, good guess, were you after it as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Errr.... YES!That was cracking price - wanna sell it on for a small profit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony4147 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Posted by Timbo - Administrator on 09/03/2010 15:07:44: Errr.... YES! That was cracking price - wanna sell it on for a small profit ? Err NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Frank Skilbeck Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Wildthing gets my vote for testing new slopes, chuck, crash, chuck again............... If going conventional a Chris Foss Middle Phase knocks spots off the Stargazer. Be warned though, you say just a glider for when it's too windy for power, before you know it you will have a fleet..................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil May Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 Your probably right there Frank, but then again can you ever have to many models Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris van Schoor Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Posted by Slopetrashuk on 04/03/2010 18:46:51: Oh for gods sake guys.....Wildthing, wildthing, wildthing...... There are actually other models in the world you know. Open your mind a bit and find out a bit more info first. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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