Paul Williams Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Thinking of going to france does any one know if their regs are the same as uk or are they different. Is there a weight limit for models out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 In a nutshell, you can fly models up to 25kg AUW, with an engine n/e 250cc and a power output n/e 15KW, without special permission. Above that, the authorisation procedure is much like that of the LMA/CAA system. This link may help. If you are using 2.4Ghz, you need to adopt the 'French' setting on the Tx, which reduces the range of frequencies to those currently authorised (should be adopting European norm any time now......). Some 35Mhz frequencies are compatible with those in the UK. Your BMFA insurance will provide cover whilst you are in France. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garbo Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Can you get BMFA cover while living in France, or just while on holidays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben B Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Don't forget now to drive in France you have to have shed loads of safety stuff in the car including (for this year) 2* disposable breathalysers! And they (along with the high vis jacket, reflective triangle, spare bulbs, headlight correctors etc) have to be reachable from inside the car so don't stick them in the boot. The French police are making a packet stopping UK drivers (who are blissfully unaware of the French laws) and fining them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Hi Paul, I wouldn't touch 35Mhz (don't ask why) 24 is just fine... Scottish Aeromodellers insurance works fine, so I assume BMFA is OK. As Ben says, there are many rules about what you have to have in the car, But in many years, I've never seen them enforced But, be careful, It's not all roses here, roads can be closed for hours for Bradley Wiggins, The sun will burn you, and there are many inexpensive, but head turning liquids in the bars ernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 BMFA would cover you for visits to France - residents would go through their club or FFAM for insurance. Don't get too spooked by Ben's doom-laden warnings - only the high-vis jacket needs to be 'within reach', intended to ensure you put it on before getting out of the vehicle. As Ernie says, it isn't that often that folk are fined for such infringements - it is more likely if you fail the attitude test, naturally...... You will be ripped off at the ferry ports if you pay £6.99 for a pair of 'Ethylotest' devices. Wait until you get here and buy them in the supermarket for €1 (78p) each, if you must........no-one is going to be fined the €9 (£7) until November, anyway. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty C Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 bloomin' french and their rules, I think they should get to france the lot of them Edited By Steve Hargreaves - Moderator on 22/07/2012 16:50:26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Hi Rusty, Exactly what rules are you refering to ernie (It's 32° and the sun is shining) ernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garbo Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Apparently if you dont follow the regulations, they send you a nasty letter in the post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Mon Dieu, ernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Pennington Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Channels 60 and 61 are fine here in France thay came in about 2 years ago and that is what I use at a local flying club, in fact I was flying on channel 60 a year before it came in. I was told at a model shop here that some french have been using 35 meg for about 8 years as thay say "If it works without problems then to hell with the rules use it. Lets face it what country in the EEC makes there cement bags bigger when the new rules for the EEC 2 or 3 years ago was to make them smaller THE FRENCH of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Why do you ignore all the rules? I asked a french friend........He looked at me in amazement 'Because I'm French bien sûr' ernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Dav 2 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Yes, I agree with Ernie, I don't know what you're writing about Rusty. Don't we all have daft rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouncebounce crunch Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 you mix, lay egg with a little wartair add a touch of crem, add a little salt and parslay, mix well add to a hot buttaired paan and scrap to middell when nearly cooked but still runnaye tip ont a warm edd plate with crunhay toast and enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouncebounce crunch Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 the french like frogs legs and snails but im not allowed to tell you what Aussies like. our models are a bit heavier nowadays as this is happening worldwide but the french seem to keep their models more scale like and are using the runways more often than most of us but that is a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Williams Posted July 23, 2012 Author Share Posted July 23, 2012 All very informative guys and I thank you (on both sides of the channel) but what I realy wanted to know is can I fly a plane over 7kg in france? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon B Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I sometimes wonder if people read previous posts in a thread Pete B said: 'n a nutshell, you can fly models up to 25kg AUW, with an engine n/e 250cc and a power output n/e 15KW, without special permission. Above that, the authorisation procedure is much like that of the LMA/CAA system.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I can only refer you to my first post, Paul, which mentions the limit at 25kg. If you follow the link I provided, to the FFAM, the French equivalent of BMFA, it is there in blue and white.......... The latest regs (accessible via the button: Order of April 11, 2012) contains the following: May 10, 2012 GAZETTE OF THE FRENCH REPUBLIC Classification of unmanned aircraft. Civil aircraft are unmanned classified into the following categories: Class A: - Whether or not motorized model aircraft maximum takeoff weight of less than 25 kg, or, for aircraft inert gas, total mass (structural mass and load carried) less than 25 kg, ANNEX I ACTIVITY ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF aéromodèles A. Principle of movement of model aircraft 1.1. The class A model aircraft shall be exempt from airworthiness document and are allowed to fly without additional requirements on their ability to fly and without any other condition relating to capacity requirements or the people who use them. 1.2. The specific model aircraft Class A as defined in Article 5 are not run under conditions where there would be a likely threat to third parties I hope this helps...... Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Yes ernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 You are clearly a man of few words, Ernie, but the message was the same..............whereas I'm clearly under-employed........ Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Williams Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 sorry dont know how I missed the first post what a numpty, thank you very much I am now looking forward to the french clear blue skies and good weather If anyone else fancies it have a look at fly in france advert in this mag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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