Concorde Speedbird Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Well we have a Laser thread, so I thought I'd kick off a Saito one too! On another forum there is such a thread, which has about 950 pages and over 23,600 posts! They are superb engines! Our 45s is performing beautifully in our Wot 4 e (but not e!). We also have a 62a which has bench run brilliantly, and Grandad has a 45 and 56- both run brilliantly! Reliable, tremendous power to weight ratio, and our old 45 has survived the test of time brilliantly. And they look fantastic! Who else loves Saitos? CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vecchio Austriaco Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Me, have a 90 TS waiting to be put into its fuselage. As I am a lazy builder I end up looking at the engine and putting it back into it's box again.... VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Clive Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Me! I love saitos. I have a Saito 100 in my DR1 and a 180 in my svenson stampe. A guy in our club flies a funtana with an 82 with open exhaust which sounds awesome burbling its way across the sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Olsen 1 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I have a 91 in a Hanger 9 Fokker DVII and an FA 62 that I have converted to spark. There are pictures of both in my album. Both good engines. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eck Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I have a 45S with open exhaust powering my little Ercoupe. Sounds lovely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hargreaves - Moderator Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Surely the "e" in your WOT 4 e is for "engine"..... Never had a Saito.....I believe they are great engines but the price makes them hard to justify....deep pockets & short arms... that's my problem..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concorde Speedbird Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 He he, nice one Steve! The Saitos are superb, and although they are pricey, they will last a long time. Our old 45 that sat on an enlarged Jester still runs brillianty after about 25 years! And they look very nice! I love being part of the Saito squad (but I adore Lasers and OS' too!) CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Reeves Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I love my Saitos and they look good! I have 2 x 120, 2 x 65. I have just replaced the bearings in one of the 65's, trouble in buying second hand, now it runs as sweet as a nut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.. Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I have just purchased a Saito 100FA from a club mate.It is my fourth four stroke and really does look and sound beautiful. Its going into a Hangar 9 Hellcat, what size prob do you people recommend? two and three bladed. Also I want to fit a dome prop nut that is starter friendly any Ideas / recommendations? Edited By Justin K on 04/01/2013 20:30:54 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Olsen 1 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I have successfully started engines without spinners by turning around the rubber piece in the starter. That gives a flat surface with a hole. The hole fits over the prop nut and the flat surface bears on the washer and the prop boss. This gives enough grip to start the engine OK. This works fine on my Saito 91 for instance, no spinner on a Fokker DVII. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concorde Speedbird Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 Posted by John Olsen 1 on 04/01/2013 23:01:28: I have successfully started engines without spinners by turning around the rubber piece in the starter. That gives a flat surface with a hole. The hole fits over the prop nut and the flat surface bears on the washer and the prop boss. This gives enough grip to start the engine OK. This works fine on my Saito 91 for instance, no spinner on a Fokker DVII. Same here, we've done that a lot. CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concorde Speedbird Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 We flew the Wot 4 with the Saito 45s on a 12x5 prop today... and it was amazing! It sounded absolutely brilliant. It made an almost whining sound on a fast full throttle pass, almost like a full size when the tips go supersonic- it was fantastic! May have been propellor noise or induction, we don't really know- it just sounds great, turn away and you would have thought it was an air racer. Brilliant! CS Edited By ConcordeSpeedbird on 12/01/2013 22:09:47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concorde Speedbird Posted January 25, 2013 Author Share Posted January 25, 2013 Posted by Justin K on 04/01/2013 20:26:25: I have just purchased a Saito 100FA from a club mate.It is my fourth four stroke and really does look and sound beautiful. Its going into a Hangar 9 Hellcat, what size prob do you people recommend? two and three bladed. Sorry for late reply, this site is good for prop size and lots of other stuff (14x8 15x6 for your 100) but I don't know about 3 bladed. Right then, my brand new Saito FA40a has arrived, and it really is 30 sized! Lovely box, and an absolute gem of an engine, truly beautiful and top quality. You know the person who built it cared! And also, it is very light. At 300 grams, it weighs practically the same as an SC25 two stroke. It will be going on a Pegasus models Jester biplane. It is my first brand new engine, so I'll let you know how I get on as I go. CS CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Kirkham Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I love Satio's too!! I have 3 at the moment, one 72 in a Seagull Spacewalker, one 72 in a Flair Pup and one 120 that has yet to be used. They take a bit of running in and they are a little bit more expensive but they run soooooo sweet Johnny Edited By Johnny Kirkham on 25/01/2013 17:33:43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin U Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I've just acquired a Saito 85 brand spankers, it is an engineering thing of beauty. Nearly sorted the bench setup to run her in. other than following the manual any tips please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concorde Speedbird Posted January 26, 2013 Author Share Posted January 26, 2013 Posted by Martin U on 25/01/2013 23:31:42: I've just acquired a Saito 85 brand spankers, it is an engineering thing of beauty. Nearly sorted the bench setup to run her in. other than following the manual any tips please? My best instruction would be to follow the manual! They like quite a bit of running in, so you are on the right track benching her. This site is good for other info. My brand new FA-40a destined for a Jester biplane...mmmm That prop is only for flicking purposes (the most satisfying thing in the world!) and I'll probably use an 11x5. Really small and nice! CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I just seen some notice on Steve Webb Models website If shown as ‘out of stock’, please back order – please do back order with us – as often we can get Saito stock within a few days (subject to supplier having stocks).So don’t despair if it’s shown ‘out of stock’, please contact us! This looks like act of serious desperation to me, yet is quite funny. Ok, so now tell me - Saito vs OS - which brand is better and why?? By the way - Saito radials look fantastic. Cheers Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concorde Speedbird Posted January 26, 2013 Author Share Posted January 26, 2013 Saitos vs OS. Well, they are both superb and it is purely down to which one you want! They both run reliably, great power from both and they will both last donkey's years! They sound different, some Saitos have better power to weight ratio, but really it is down to what the airframe needs. Alongside Laser, they are the 'big 3' in four strokes in my opinion! I prefer Saito to OS but I would be delighted to own an OS, as I am in the Domino. Nothing wrong with any of them! CS PS: Saito radials= Perfect for Stearmans! The video is not great for the sound, they are wonderful. Only if... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin U Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I have an old kit [Exitation Fun Fly a Pete Tindal model] that specifies a 0.9 - 1.8 Cu in with a 16 x 8 prop. Would a Saito 56 be overpowered? The target is 8 lbs [3630 Gm] with a 67" span with 8.14 Sq Ft wing area I feel it would just up the fun component but would it just be OTT? Sure I'll get some interesting views. BTW considered electric but £300 of batteries [3] and £210 for powertrain ic seems much better as our field is in farmland with just sheep to listen! Edited By Martin U on 26/01/2013 11:59:16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concorde Speedbird Posted January 26, 2013 Author Share Posted January 26, 2013 Do you mean underpowered? I would go with something bigger, the 62a is the same size with more power. How much power do you need? CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin U Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 looking at Cu in to cc converters I thought the 56 was larger.. mm need to re calc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concorde Speedbird Posted January 26, 2013 Author Share Posted January 26, 2013 You say on a 16x8 prop, to take that you'd need a Saito 125! At 67" span you'd need quite a bit of power, probably a 91. I don't know though, see what others think. CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braddock, VC Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Posted by Martin U on 26/01/2013 11:55:13: I have an old kit [Exitation Fun Fly a Pete Tindal model] that specifies a 0.9 - 1.8 Cu in with a 16 x 8 prop. Would a Saito 56 be overpowered? The target is 8 lbs [3630 Gm] with a 67" span with 8.14 Sq Ft wing area I feel it would just up the fun component but would it just be OTT? Sure I'll get some interesting views. BTW considered electric but £300 of batteries [3] and £210 for powertrain ic seems much better as our field is in farmland with just sheep to listen! Edited By Martin U on 26/01/2013 11:59:16 90 2 stroke minimum, 120 AX 2 stroke ideal, 160 Fx overpowered, I think a 125a saito would be a minimum as mine run best with a 16x6 prop. Saito 150/180 would be good...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paul Marsh Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I love saitos. Have most of them, but the nicest ones are these: Edited By Chris Bott - Moderator on 30/01/2013 09:16:19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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