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You don't need to add much water at all really, you wan't it 'creamy', just add enough to enable it to 'flow' on a 1/2" brush.

One thing worth mentioning, it shrinks whilst drying, so if you do the top side of a wing, for example, make sure you do the bottom side in the same session so it doesn't pull itself all out of shape. All but the very thickest of structures will be warped by the powerful shrinkage effect... disgust

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Sorry, another tip I remember - before you apply the paper its best to paint the model thinly in undiluted PVA all over and let it dry.  Once dry if you sand it back with a medium paper to take any nobbles off then its ready to receive the paper/diluted pva.  Gives a great bond.

Also, an iron can be used to heat down any flaps or edges around wing tips etc to get an immediate grab!

Edited By Phil Cooke on 22/07/2014 22:42:51

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Well that's the way to go - I'll enjoy doing that process to get a good finish, thanks Phil for adding these finishing details to this build thread.

In our club the Melton Lancaster was finished off with brown paper on foam - also Arthur Askew one of the part owners / build team also told me that they also used pre-gummed brown paper in strips ( supplied on rolls) the type that was used to seal boxes and put on box edges years ago. By the way I think and believe the Melton Lancaster was over 300 lbs in weigh.

Edited By Mark Kettle 1 on 22/07/2014 22:50:37

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Just back tracking a little whilst I was doing the assembly of second wing,  I thought I would show you how and a method I used to choose where the main spar was put - keeping in mind the main spar would be a good point to balance the model with, and also show how the main spar is put in.

It Involves a 'Plumb Bob'. Basically set up some kit, as in photo - then hang up by the wing tip and put the plumb bob from the same point, with masking tape on the wing centre line mark where the cotton used crosses the centre line. The trick is to check it by doing the same from the other wing tip.

The funny thing is at any point that you check either along the LE or TE of the wing this method confirms the balance point, once the plumb bob stops swinging it always passes through the original mark.

wing balancing kit.jpg

put some masking tape 10 inch long in rough area of balance put on centre line of wing.jpg

put screw in wall cotton looped over and attach to spring clip-peg.jpg

hold wing tip in corner attach peg - clip and plumb bob.jpg

plumb bob washer not swinging do alternate hang and hang from the other wing tip to check the mark.jpg

plumb bob crosses over centre line of wing get ready to mark.jpg

centre a gravity balance point mark centre line.jpg

I then put it in this jig after marking up a line where I will cut in half to enable the main to go inside the wing, The position is referenced by the use of 2 mm wire control rods pushed like skewers top to bottom of the wing then push to up the metal edge of this throat cutter. picture below then Hot-wire bow is used to cut it off.

foam wing throat cutter.jpg

Main spar is 10 mm square wood - inset a little from the bottom in this wing with only the outer tips needing sanding a blending to wing shape.

avro vulcan epp foam wing cut to allow main spar insertion .jpg

Better glue in back together now.

 

Edited By Mark Kettle 1 on 24/07/2014 19:54:59

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Back to the 1st build one now......

As advice form Phil ( earlier on in this thread ) on preparation before covering in brown paper, applied PVA and once PVA put on wing was dry I sanded it with a Car Perp fine grit - it was either side of this sponge foam pad.

Well smooooth now....lovely egg shell finish. ready for the PVA solution and brown paper.

car perp use fine grade sander product grit is either side of sponge foam .jpg

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The cement evenly spread could be ballast Daz - I'll make it a jacket.

Good guess Phil - its the other side of the model .....

Jig to cut a hatch....

top hatch jig cutter avro vulcan model.jpg

Angled slots 1.5 mm wide width of a knife - allow constant and straight cut. Angled edge should help with keeping the hatch to the top. To retain hatch, peg at front magnets at the back. May have the put some 4 mm carbon rod in it to keep it in shape.

Will cut out after covered in brown paper, then recover the bare edges.

hatch angle knife cut.jpg

vulcan hatch cover jig and knife.jpg

Edited By Mark Kettle 1 on 24/07/2014 22:47:52

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Tooling Always time - however makes the second onwards really quick to build, for instance today cut a little off the -wing plan form- patterns because of a little overlap at the leading edge I kept having to sanding off the LE epp foam, only needed 3 mm off middle and second out pattern, and a lot better now.

 

Edited By Mark Kettle 1 on 24/07/2014 23:03:15

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Right fuse is on.....made the fin earlier with its 3 spar supports, the angle on the fin spars could be a problem to fit into the fuselage.....but guess what I made another ( dam ) jig.

Made a jig to poke holes in the fuselage for fin insertion into the fuselage. Made from MDF sandwich - spacings as slots inside it the same width and angle as spar supports. A Poking rod made from  6 mm carbon  with brass screw glued inside - flattened on one side to help with boring - right through to the bottom of the fuse.

fin spar angle jig to poke holes into fuselage for fin spars.jpg

Notice middle spar shorter because it goes to the drag spar support and not through it, outer two fin spars go through to bottom of fuselage.

angle same and spacings same as fin spars notice middle shorter.jpg

The rear fin spar happens to be at a point where if I wanted I could put a rudder into the edge. Fro correct placement put a TE level mark.

fin spar angle jig on fuselage.jpg

All I have to do is hold it upright and down the centre line, I'll hold the wing still with weights so it doesn't move on the bench.

hold upright before poke through right to bottom of fuse.jpg

...... running out of wood to make jigs, that better be the last jig to make yes.

Edited By Mark Kettle 1 on 25/07/2014 21:51:37

Edited By Mark Kettle 1 on 25/07/2014 21:52:42

Edited By Mark Kettle 1 on 25/07/2014 21:53:55

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Back in the workshop and weighed the two only 40 grams difference between the two current finished state.

- the one on the left includes two standard servos in - has had two coats of neat P.V.A and rubbed down smooth and weighs 640 grams

- the second one on the right also two standard servos in - no PVA on and weighs 600 grams

left one weighs 640 grams pva coated - right one weighs 600 grams no pva coating yet.jpg

So over the whole area of the model the PVA coating only adds 40 grams so for nice finish its worth doing,  I can afford the extra weigh in the big picture of things.

Edited By Mark Kettle 1 on 26/07/2014 08:16:14

Edited By Mark Kettle 1 on 26/07/2014 08:17:07

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