Boz Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 I'm liking some of the French colours especially the no3 with the Swan,boz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 can anyone help with this, this is a photo of the wing tips that mick reaves has enclosed with the plans, showing the piano wire round the edgethe next pic shows the edge with what looks like the linen covering used to cover the airframe, do you think this is used to hold the wire in place before covering?, or should i fasten it with small pieces of piano wire like i did on the tailplane {see build blog} or will that be ok as shown, thanks for looking boz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Harris 1 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 The small amount of covering is to give the rest of the covering something to grip onto..it doesn't stick too well to the piano wire.Jez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 thanks jez should i do as on tailplane? ie l shaped piano wire in two or three places? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 hello guys help needed again, still working on the top wings and started thinking about the hardware, looked at this pic that mick included with the plansis this a way of holding the bolts in place ? if so what is the method of fixing,boz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 they are little self tappers aren't they? And its bits like this that annoyed me when looking at my pup plans. Something that is critical to the structure and you are left guessing on how to install it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 I think the small piece of ply has something to do with it, and the plan says bolt in place, the photo is a bit vague, for a novice, Heeelp class="SmallText">Edited By Boz on 29/09/2015 20:57:26Edited By Boz on 29/09/2015 20:58:31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Harris 1 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Hi. Looking at that, the reinforcement goes below the spar - i.e between the 2 spars and it bolts in place - not self tappers! I would look at making the nuts captive in some way and then you can remove the plate as required. Also - is that a top wing? brackets on the top of the top wing? Jez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 this is the photo thats with the plans, i think its a bottom wing as the flaps can be seen on one of the picsi am working on the top wing as you know, and as the small piece of ply is not shown on the plan it says bolt into place, i dont think they are self tappers. these are the plan photos on the area in questioni can see how they fit but dont know what the small bit of ply is doing there, jez is this the same on yours? thanks boz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Ok thats clearer now...slightly I would suggest that it is indeed a reinforcing plate, but if you are working on the top wing it should be glued to the top surface of the lower spar and the metal plate bolted to the under side of the wing. I wonder if that piece of ply is also intended to give the plate the correct spacing from the rib....if you overlay the ply spacer on the plan, can it be made to butt up to the wing rib while keeping the holes in the right place? Edited By Jon Harper on 30/09/2015 08:31:24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 hi jon, here is the area in question, there are only 4 of these ply pieces so it must only be the one wing that has the ply insertsas i said the ply is not shown on the plans at all, and no they do not but up to the wing, shuld i glue in place or just glue nuts in the holes and bolt from outside underside of wing? quite puzzling, thanks for looking boz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 considering that the metal bracket is not the same as the one on the plan i dont know what to suggest other than phoning mick reeves and asking. I am sure he or Jim can point you the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 Hi Jon, looking at the metalwork that came with the strutter I am beginning to wonder if it's 1/3 scale? As it looks smaller than the supplied hardware, the strutter is a lot larger than the pup, and wonder if Mick has not made this hardware larger than the pup? Guess I will have to get back to Mick, boz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 jon thanks for the advice, i heard back from jim, at mick reaves its as i thought the plans are blown up to one third as per the sopwith pup, but as the strutter is a larger airframe the parts do look smaller, although its a 1/3 scale, i dont know how this will effect, the views of the scale brigadethe plans on mick reaves site do say dawn patrol, so i think it should be ok, if my build even gets close to the standards on there i will be happy, boz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 were you able to get a line on what those ply things are for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 Jon, no he never said anything about those, I will ask him.If I had to guess I would say they are a keeper for the nutscand strengthener, but why there are only 4 I don't know, boz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 jon yes they are for the bottom wing to strengthen the anchor points, well taken a break from the build today, the wife wanted to know{quote} how much more room room i would be taking up with these planes {quote} what with the 105 inch edge in two boxes in the spare hanger/bedroom, the engines for the strutter, and the edge, the 35cc storch, and all the other stuff, then the strutter on a ten foot board on the dining room table the boomarag trainer and bit and pieces in the hall, i think she is over reacting a little, i got myself a good second hand shed 12x8 and am just turning it into the workshop/hanger here are a few pictures of the work so far, im using as much reclaimed wood as i can sorry its wrong way up will try harder next time loli have put a new roof on it as i dont want any water ingress and this wood is off the roof im using it to build two 12 foot benches one each side and will cover them with ply new floor and lot of work to do but work again now untill tuesday, thanks for looking boz Edited By Boz on 01/10/2015 15:23:44 Edited By Boz on 01/10/2015 15:26:08 Edited By Boz on 01/10/2015 15:28:02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 just about to fix the last bits of ply filling, but wondered if i should lock tight the hardware in place, or leave it to the endwhen i have built all the wings and fit the hardware all togetheralso what sort of angle do i need for the anchor points i think you can make out the angle i have just nowthanks for looking boz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 i think final adjustment of the angles can be done once the model is assembled and the 'test rigging' installed. You can then adjust them to follow the line of the flying wires just by sight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted October 7, 2015 Author Share Posted October 7, 2015 thanks again jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ME109 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Hi Boz, regarding the hardware, I have had to fabricate some of the parts as the supplied parts are too small (Rudder horn) while other parts are fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 Thanks me109, I'm making that same part now, boz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 Hello again guys, am getting along with my top wing, and noticed that there are a couple of windows in there, looking at builds done by others they are made-up from old bottles and litho plate, is this litho plate softer than aluminium?and therefore easier to shape, if so where can I get some from? in the Scunthorpe area,thanks for looking boz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 Ken, thanks for your help I have sent you a pm, boz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 cut some steel for my undercarrage and angled it, this is one half of it as its my first time doing this sort of thing, please feel free to comment, good, or bad, see all my latest pics on my build thread, thanks for looking boz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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