krazykop Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Hi all, I decided that i wanted to become involved with flying model planes after a mate of mine had his own plane and i thought 'I have to start doing that!' Seeing as im on holiday from school, i spent the last few days searching around for cheap starter planes. I thought i would start elecric but ive decided that i want to go straight for a petrol one (or whatever fuel mix is used!) I searched around and found this. http://www.servoshop.co.uk/index.php?pid=ASALE2JPWhat do you think?????I am on a really tight budget and as this is an airframe only for can anyone tell me exactly what i would need to get this up and running. Keeping costs to a minimum please.From my recent research i gather that i need:- Engine, 4 servos, a receiver, tank, and controller. Can anyone suggest good parts for this or anything else that i need? Many Thanks krazykop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon barr Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Hello KrazyKop and welcome.There are a number of similar models on the market, all good, but with model, engine, radio, etc. etc., it is going to cost you around £300 to get into the air (fuel, fuel pump...etc). Your best bet is to firstly read the newbie threads on this forum and then visit your local club, if you have one near by, and they will be able to help you, there may even be second-hand model/radio set-ups available from them.All the best,Simon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Hi and welcome to the forum krazykop. As Simon says don’t miss the several threads dedicated to Newbies such as yourself, in the beginners section, together with the few guidelines we have listed to help you with using the forum. Perhaps this in particular may help And this. Once again, welcome on board and have fun! Timbo.PS there is a whole article dedicated to people just like yourself in this months mag! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazykop Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 Many thanks guys... is the mag readily available in most newsagents??Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchweight Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Welcome KK. I reckon you will need to budget £250 to get properly under wayI/C Trainer Package - All InAdd another £20 - £30 for accessories and you're off.On top of that you need to join the BMFA for insurance purposes, and you should also join a club. It'll pay off in the end.Another couple of dealsModel & EngineModel & Engine 2Another all in dealVery cheap all in deal!And one last all in deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 krazykop wrote (see)Many thanks guys... is the mag readily available in most newsagents??Thanksshould be in large branches of WHS etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazykop Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 Thanks to all for posting....just one last thing...in fact 2 things... If i wanted to fly a plane on my own land do i need BMFA membership?and also is this any good?http://www.sussex-model-centre.co.uk/shopexd.asp?id=19519^^^^^recommended by Shaun Chant above^^^^^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Harris Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Tonight I watched a young lad (11yo I think) fly an Arising Star: a) Loops b) Aileron Rolls c) Inverted passOn Sunday, he passed his 'A', I reckon that makes the AS a pretty good workhorse. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazykop Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 Ok thanks Andy! Can i please get some opinions on this! XD http://www.sussex-model-centre.co.uk/shopexd.asp?id=19519i dont think it has elevators (is that bad?????)it fits my price range nicely thoughthanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchweight Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 I have seen one of these and as a trainer it was fine. It will have elevators, ailerons and rudder. The radio gear is pretty cheap stuff, and you really do get what you pay for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 krazykop wrote (see)Thanks to all for posting....just one last thing...in fact 2 things... If i wanted to fly a plane on my own land do i need BMFA membership?You dont NEED it.... but Insurance is still recommended - you just never know what could happen - flyaways are not uncommon for absolute beginners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdy Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Hi!The jumper 25 is one of the better known (to me anyway) trainers, so it should be suitible, along with the rest of the package. My only place of concern is the radio. I might surgest that you start with a good quality one like this or this that should last you a while; the four chanel GWS will limit many things on second models, and you may end up getting a new one any way. And I don't trust very cheap things either. I may just say that this is someting that is completely open for debate. I would say that the insurence is a must. How big is you land by the way? Also things you will need to buy are starting equipment, adhesives, prop, and I would reccomend a frequency checker if flying alone, and well as a cheap sim like E-sky FMS of reality craft. Best of luck,birdy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazykop Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 Hi birdy, thanks for that....my land is big enough to fly a model in im pretty sure... how does a frequency checker help?? can anyone tell me what a crystal is....all i know is that it goes i the controller. also do i need a starter, cant i just spin it with my fingers???? <---im keeping costs to a minimum many thanksKK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Hi Krazykop,I fly on a space, about the size of a football pitch. More important is that there is clear space around, or, you will certainly end up in the only tree for miles around. ( they move around) A frequency checker, in my opinion not really necessary. Essentially, It tells you if there are other flyers nearby. If you fly on 35 mhz, then you need a matched crystal in both the transmitter, and the reciever. You can start the engine by hand, but it is a knack, and a starter makes it all so much easierernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazykop Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 ernie, thanks very much for your help. my field is larger than a football pitch however it is surrounded by a hedge and trees. does this make it unsuitable?? thanksKK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchweight Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 krazykop wrote (see)my field is larger than a football pitch however it is surrounded by a hedge and trees. does this make it unsuitable?? thanksKKNot until you hit them! It should be fine, but i really do suggest joining a club, as teaching yourself will cost you much more cash in the long run, when you replace your model after the first crash (you wil, you know) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazykop Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 thanks shaun, i will probably end up joining as it wont break the bank and im sure it will be invauluable!!kk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ernie Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Yes, Insurance is essential.. I had a well maintained funfly vanish over the horizon, still never found it, but, it could of hit anything. ernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Jordan Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Hi Ernie, Have you ever been able to ascertain why trees have the ability to move around any open space ? At one time I thought it might be a good idea to consult Alan Titmarsh on the subject. What do you think ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tim Mackey Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 RON 2 wrote (see)Hi Alan.,dont think your comments are helpful or be gratefully welcomed by Ernie or anyone else do you?What actually is the problem with them Ron ? seemed an innocent and humorous take on a R/C modellers life to me ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Chaddock Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Hi KKNot wishing to spread doom and gloom but please, please take the advice and get someone to teach you to fly. It may look easy but it is not. Your plane is too expensive for you to wreck in a just a few seconds and that is very likely to happen trying to teach yourself. You would not expect to take up a full size plane without training, an RC model is no different. In fact in some respects it is more difficult as you are always closer to the ground!So join a club and learn to fly. That way you might keep your valuable model in one piece long enough for you to be able to afford another! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy watson Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I am learning to fly with a jumper 25, and it's spot on as a trainer.Not very inspiring to look at , admittedly, but it has put up with all my bumps so far!There are some slightly larger ones, that are not much more money, but that's up to you- the jumper is fine. I have also seen my instructor fly one in a way that means there is a lot more that it is capable of once I have reached a level of competence.And get insurance- unless you are too young to get sued! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Hi guys It is a proven fact that trees do in fact move. Only aeromodellers know this. They move mainly from side to side, sometimes by quite large amounts. Also, they have been known to move upwards, but strangely, not down. I understand that Gordon Brown intends to make quite a large research grant available to study this phenomena. in view of its implications for forestation. It was fleetingly referred to in the film series Lord of the Ringsernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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