Ron Gray Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 In 2016, at the Cosford show, I visited the tent where Micro Aces were displaying their range of WW1 indoor models. In my club we have a fair selection of the usual WW1 indoor suspects, DR1, Albatross, SE5a, Spad, Neiuport etc so their prototype of the Brisfit caught my eye as it was different. Back home I placed my pre-order for the kit, thinking that I would get it by September (this was June). Roll the clock on and eventually I got my kit in February this year so it was put away as most of our indoor season had been and gone. Today I decided to get it out and make a start on it, bearing in mind that the 2017-2018 indoor season is just round the corner! The starting point You may have noticed that the instructions are a BETA version (wasn't told that)! The bits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 The fuse crutch Applying stickers to the cockpit formers before fitting. The bits are so small it would be very difficult to fit them after fixing the formers, in fact every part is so small tweezers come in very handy! Formers fitted to the crutch, Uhu Por used throughout. Fuse sheeting fitted to sides, top and bottom. The Uhu Por was used as a contact adhesive to make this easier. Made a mistake here, I didn't bevel the edges of the sides (it does say so in the destructions, I just forgot!) To get the depron to curve you have to score the reverse of the sheet using the back of the knife. Nice curve Edited By Ron Gray on 21/10/2017 21:11:47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 Curved pieces fitted to fuse Starting on the tail feathers, the elevator has to have a thin (1.0mm x 0.4mm) carbon rod stuck to it Control horns blast they are small Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hargreaves - Moderator Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Watching with interest Ron....I like the BrisFit... Clearly a range of tweezers is essential for this one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff S Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 There's no way my hands are steady enough to build a model this small but it looks an interesting build. The village hall we rent for winter indoor flying is a bit small, too. I notice the video of the SE5a models flying on the Micro Aces web site is a hall that accommodates 4 badminton courts and is also very high. I remember watching my grandfather repair watches at his bench when he must have been in his 80s ( I would have been under 5). He always clipped his apron to the bench to catch anything he dropped from his tweezers. I keep thinking I should do the same. Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Geoff, if yer gut is big enough, it does the job. But keep going, I am fascinated by these things. Going to spend some money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hooper Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I've just completed the SE5a from the same range. A bit fiddly, it's true, but it does look gorgeous. Just waiting the wind to drop a bit..... Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff S Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I have an Eachine SE5a about the same size but wood. It's the second one, as I made such a hash of the first thus demonstrating my clumsiness Still, they're only about £15 IIRC from Banggood and (hopefully) my experience with the first will help with the second. The big advantage with the Micro Aces models is that they're ready finished. The Eachine ones are bare wood. Tim, the wind would have to drop to zero to fly one of these tiny models outside or you risk having a blow-away as I did at Ashbourne The Bristol looks like it'll be a stunning little model though and I'm watching with interest. Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew767 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 This is fantastic,but what rx does it use please? Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff S Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I'm using a Flysky compatible receiver which has a brushed esc and 2 servos incorporated on the board which measures about 28mm x 22mm and weighs about 5gms. I got from Banggood and it cost around £10 or perhaps a bit less. It takes a single cell LiPo. It binds OK with a Flysky module plugged into the back of my Taranis. The module is the same one I use to fly my V911 helicopter. The main problem is fixing it firmly as it needs to be because of the servos. I haven't solved that yet. Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 Elevator hinged and operational Rudder next Now onto the U/C The 2 carbon rods in the photo above are for the lower wing support. All made from plastic sheet, in some cases folded over and stuck together. Main legs have short lengths of carbon rod stuck inside the 2 pieces. UHU Por applied ready to fit to underside of fuse. All stuck on. The is a coloured sticker to apply to the underside of the U/C to cover the white Depron (go back to the start of the U/C photos and you will see what I mean). The destructions say to use soapy water or 'tongue water' to allow it to be positioned as there is very little room for manoeuvring, must admit that I've never used 'tongue water' before but it does work and meant that I didn't have to get out of my seat to do it! Edited By Ron Gray on 23/10/2017 13:55:11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 Next up, the rear gunners equipment (so to speak!). Now I thought this build had been fiddly, but this next bit of work really tested the eyesight, dexterity and patience! Scarff ring gun support arm Both mounted to the scarf ring which has been formed out of a Depron ring with stickers on top, round the outside and later will have same applied to the inside! Twin Vickers formed out of folded plastic, plastic tube and stickers. 8 pieces in all make up the guns. Vickers mounted to the scarf ring arms. Note the ammo drums, each made from 2 pieces of Depron, a sticker on top and one round the outside. Boy were my eyes straining at this point. And finally, mounted to the fuse and that was me done for the night (last night). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 Reality check. Size check against a tube of UHU Por. So, yes, tweezers are an essential part of the build! Here are the ones that I use. Edited By Ron Gray on 23/10/2017 14:12:25 Edited By Ron Gray on 23/10/2017 14:13:24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff S Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 That looks really tiny as well as beautiful. I find I have a head magnifier permanently attached when I'm building despite having my workshop safety glasses which are set to focus closer than my usual reading lens. Might be worth trying if you're having to strain to see small parts. Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 I can see them Geoff but usually have a problem finding out where they go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daithi O Buitigh Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Them Vickerses are Lewises Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 You are, of course, correct! The forward facing one was a Vickers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Keywood Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Good work. Watching with interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 Work has restarted on the Brisfit, photos to follow later today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 Now, where was I? Lower wing assembly I’d forgotten just how fiddly this build was / is. Nice little touches with the kit, they supply cover stickers to go over the cf wing spars. Now onto to the engine cowl All wrapped up in its own sticker (sorry for the orientation of the pics, no matter which way round they are on my computer, the upload rotated them as it saw fit) Magnets hold it in place Scored Depron and sticker ‘hood’ stuck to rad. Exhaust stack and header. 2 bits of Depron plus stickers Quite effective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 Now, where was I? Lower wing assembly I’d forgotten just how fiddly this build was / is. Nice little touches with the kit, they supply cover stickers to go over the cf wing spars. Now onto to the engine cowl All wrapped up in its own sticker (sorry for the orientation of the pics, no matter which way round they are on my computer, the upload rotated them as it saw fit) Magnets hold it in place Scored Depron and sticker ‘hood’ stuck to rad. Exhaust stack and header. 2 bits of Depron plus stickers Quite effective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 Interplane struts made from printed plastic with cf strengthening And yet more fiddly cover pieces Tweezers required! Temporarily positioned on lower wing. Destructions quite clear about not sticking them in place yet! Before going further I decided to drill out all of the rigging holes, thank goodness for my pin chuck and mini drill set. Now we come to the upper wing assembly. The centre section has to have its edges chamfered so I ‘borrowed’ one of the wife’s unused nail files for this task and what an excellent job it did of it too. Methinks I’ll be keeping this in my tool box. Facing the ribs with coloured sticker. And over to cover the Depron. Stuck onto the wing in the designated place using Uhu Por Wing glued together and placed in provided dihedral former, neat. Left to dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 Let the rigging commence! Only a few photos of this but it took a long while to do it. Now if I thought Bits up to now were fiddly............ I used a needle threader to pull the cotton through the rigging holes and even then it was a struggle. I’m sure my fingers used to be slimmer than they are now. And the tail feathers All rigging in place, waiting for final tensioning (will have to wait ‘til I get back home as I need some foam safe CA for that job as each span needs separate tension and anchoring in place). Amazing how much the wings geometry can be changed with slight changes in tension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetenor Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Very nice work. What thread did you use .? Re the nail files I get mine from my chiropodist whan he has finished with them on my toes. Two grades on the one stick. Very handy and free too. Edited By onetenor on 03/12/2017 11:33:42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 Not too sure about the thread as it came with the kit but it looks like silky button type thread (sounds like I know what I'm talking about on the old haberdashery front, but I don't, it's just that the thread is slightly shiny and is quite a coarse weave). Apologies for the multiple posting earlier, I'm building and posting this whilst on a mother-in-law visit and her broadband isn't that broad so I think that the multiple uploads are a result of the computer caching data when it is trying to upload. Pah! who needs Permagrit when you have second foot toe nail files! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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