David Still 1 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Can anyone recomend a good trainer kit I fly gliders and looking to start power flying for the days my glider is grounded which is a rudder elevator so something with ailerons would be good. I am not a fan of foam models and much prefer building balsa models. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 DB Mascot. Big enough to see. Heavy enough to teach respect. Fine trainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingcoax Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 D B MASCOT + 1 New wing is built up, old one foam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Still 1 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 Cheers guys I forgot to mention I'm looking for electric but conversions are fairly simple. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 The DB website points you to electric conversion. I would not bother to do IC if you are starting out as a glider flyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich too Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 SInce you can already fly, a Wot 4 kit would also be a good choice and will take a wide range of power plants.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hargreaves - Moderator Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 +1 for a Wot 4....suspect you will get bored of a Trainer very quickly.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Additional question. Do you intend to maiden it yourself. We have two schools of thought. A trainer, or if power restricted a Wot 4. Both good. I wonder if the answers will change when you answer the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Still 1 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 Posted by Don Fry on 23/10/2019 21:15:44: Additional question. Do you intend to maiden it yourself. We have two schools of thought. A trainer, or if power restricted a Wot 4. Both good. I wonder if the answers will change when you answer the question. It will probably be maidened by another club member. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Still 1 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 Does anyone have any experience of the Phoenix model products Shindig? https://www.phoenixmp.com/cgi-bin/sh000042.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ephoenixmp%2ecom%2facatalog%2fsearch%2ehtml&WD=shindig&PN=The_Kits%2ehtml%23aSK015#aSK015 Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 +2 for a WOT 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I’m sure Seagull models do a kit for a trainer. HERE Edited By cymaz on 24/10/2019 06:25:32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Maindened by someone also, and careful with the control throws, Wot4 is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMON CRAGG Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Have a look on Facebook "Market place". Various boxed kits come up from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Still 1 Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 Sorry the link doesn't seem to post very well I'll try this. http://www.phoenixmp.com/acatalog/The_Kits.html Edited By David Still 1 on 24/10/2019 08:14:30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Wood Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Uno-Wot kit with ailerons & reduced dihedral is a nice elegant flyer. It's a good quality kit with veneered foam wings & a fair bit of ply. Edited By Richard Wood on 24/10/2019 08:22:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Geezer Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Yes - 1/2 a vote for a Wot4, as long as it's not overweight/overpowered they're friendly old things and almost impossible to stall/drop a wing, then with increased confidence put a bigger motor on the front ( electric or i/c ). However Mr Foss has designed the perfect plane to take you from gliding to powered flight - the Uno Wot - it's available with either a dihedral wing ( ie rudder, elevator, throttle ) or an aileron wing to give you the full four function experience, so you could start with the tamer RET airframe with a modest power unit on the front and with increased confidence and competence get the aileron wing and add a bit more gee up on the front to allow more progress. Then, when you're happy and confident flying your Uno Wot no longer under supervision, that's the time to progress to the Wot4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 "Does anyone have any experience of the Phoenix model products Shindig?" No, but Phoenix have been very highly spoken of on this forum. Also, the plan for the Shindig is accessible and for free download, and if it is not an electrified version of the DB Tyro design I will eat at least some of my own hat. If you want a standard trainer it would be an excellent bet, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Wasey Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 IMHO the all time best trainer was the Kamco Kadet. It's a doddle to build, flies superbly thanks to a great semi-symmetrical aerofoil and can be flown as a three channel (rudder, elevator & throttle) or "full house" with an aileron wing. Originally a club favourite from the 1970s the Kamco range has been revived somewhat by Rich Booth who can supply plans (search for his Kamco site on Facebook) and the wing ribs are available from eBay. **LINK** I'm sure SLEC would laser cut the other bits and pieces but to be honest it's a simple stuff designed to come out of standard sizes sheets. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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