Bruce Richards Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Ok Ok Jim I think we get the message Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo565 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Bruce Sorry about the multiple posts,when I clicked add post nothing happened,kept on clicking till it went. cheers Jim. Crazy things happening with my setup since the changeover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Mullins Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Am i right in thinking that the fairey albacore is a carrier bourne Bipe bomber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Winks Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 Think your right ben definately not a flying wing and if your refering to the earlier post Jim it was an armstrong whitworth abermarle some one got that already edit actually Ben your dead right the albacore was a torpeodo carrying bipe it was on page 5 of this thread by Gemma lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Mullins Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 haha, yeh! Forgot about that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Chaddock Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I can wait any longer! Armstrong Whitworth AW52 Now this is the interesting picture of this plane - with what must be an early application of flaperons/crow braking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Mullins Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Haha, sorry Simon Nice picture, is it a true flying wing though? Its got vert. stabilisers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Winks Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 Well done Simon although they're not flaperons it had proper flaps fowlers I think in the centre of the wing and elevons outboard incidental the rudders on the stabilisers worked differentially more movement on the side the plane was turning toward so more outboard movement than inboard this aircraft was the result of extensive research into laminar flow wings but was shelved due to them not getting the top speeds they expected also it had the dubious honour of being the 1st aircraft that a pilot ejected from in a real emergency it suffered high speed oscillations while in a dive that threatened structural integrity prob due to elevon flutter luckily only the pilot was on board at the time as the co pilots seat wasn't fitted with an ejection facility. the seat used was a martin baker design Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Winks Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 Right here's another rare one hopefully it'll confuse the hell out of you all Actually so rare you'll not find it in wickopedia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Taylor Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Hi Phil this looks a little bit like a Hawker Harrier - although the wingtips look wrong - so I'm a bit hesitant on the ID. The nine-cylinder radial narrows it down to a Bristol engine, Dragonfly, or Alvis Leonides - this last was trialled in a Bristol Bulldog - which this definitely isn't. It's fun this! AlistairT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Taylor Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Hi Phil this looks a little bit like a Hawker Harrier - although the wingtips look wrong - so I'm a bit hesitant on the ID. The nine-cylinder radial narrows it down to a Bristol engine, Dragonfly, or Alvis Leonides - this last was trialled in a Bristol Bulldog - which this definitely isn't. It's fun this! AlistairT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Winks Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 Hi alastair not a hawker or bristol although it may be a bristol engine. although this aircraft was in service in 1926 details/history is difficult to locate however I do know that the japanese navy did buy the designs albeit slightly modified the manufacturers were prolific in designing naval aircraft at the time and later produced an iconic transport aircraft that saw long service albeit in limited numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Winks Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 Hi Alistar its not a hawker or a bristol although it may be a bristol engine. even though this aircraft saw some service from 1926 ish with the navy its history is not that well documented for some reason. I do know that the designs for a version of this were sold to the japanese navy. The manufacturers where at the time fairly prolific in designing naval aircraft and later went on to produce an iconic transport that saw lengthy service albeit in limited numbers with the RAF amongst other air forces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Taylor Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Hmmm - intrigued now Shorts is a name that springs to mind immediately. but it's not It's a BLackburn BT1 Beagle - as sold to the japanese to become the Mitsubishi B2M? Am I close? AlistairT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Winks Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 Oh yes well done Alistair I can see I'm going to have to dig deep to find one that beats you lot so of I go to find my shovel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Chaddock Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 AlistairT A 9 cylinder radial and you didn't mention the most famous of them all - the Jupiter - which did indeed power the BT1 Beagle and at least 262 other types of aircraft! The Beagle used a geared version (VIIIF) which allowed that rather streamlined nose profile. I shall have to see if my spade can dig as deep as Phil's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Chaddock Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 How about this one? Looks a bit familiar but........ Sorry about the poor pic, the original was rather small Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Simon Chaddock Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Yes it does look a bit like a Mossie but its not British and they were Pratt & Whitneys. Built in some numbers for their own air force. First flew in 1946. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Taylor Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 This is a toughie - but the dates and motors are helpful. Not many countries were capable of designing/building twin-engined fighter-bombers or could afford to buy motors (or were allowed to buy motors) off the USA in 1946. China? nope Russia? nope Europe was in hock to the USA, or desolate... Would the USA build one? They were working on jets. So that narrows it down a bit - and indeed, it's an argentinean-made I.Ae. 24 Calquin Ali T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Winks Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 Well done Alistair I was looking along the lines of a caproni ca 135 or variant obviously I was wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Winks Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 Right I've wanted to include this for a while not sure how easy it'll be but is one I'd love model to just for its quirky looks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemma Jane Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Vultee XP-54 Good job I was away for a bit, been some tricky ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemma Jane Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Try this one: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Winks Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 Hi Gemma welcome back bit reminiscent of a Mitchell but knowing you it aint that easy those are huge props so close to the ground or so it looks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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