kiwi g Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Oh and what would be wrong with the designers having a go at a scale heli body for say a 30 size heli,. I sure theres plenty of guys who would be keen to give this a try as theres plenty of choppers out there too. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave S. Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Graeme, how about a 30-sized scale Westland Whirlwind body, then almost everybody's happy! Plenty of room in that big body to hide any mechanics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave S. Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Richard (Hodge): re the Edgley Optica, there is a plan available, published RC Scale Aircraft winter 1988 edition, 81" span, designed by John Wright for .60 engine. Plan number is RSQ158. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave S. Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Just re-reading the posts here, I chuckled at Graeme's idea of 'plan collectors' until I realised that probably am one! I have been reading the mag since 1970, grew up with the orange free plans from Aeromodeller, still have every magazine I have every bought, with plans, and most of them are catalogued on an Access database. Although the last time I built a model from an RCM&E free plan was in 1972, when I built the Slingsby T-53 from the December edition, the subject of the free plans and the quality of drawing, printing, and paper used for them are still the most important factors when making my decision of which magazine to buy. I used to subscribe to RC Model World as well, but stopped primarily because the plans were of poor quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi g Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I too am a collector . My first rc plane was a plan built orange box glider. orange plan too. My friend and I had a great time trying to keep it aloft on a slope I wouldnt even consider now except with my alula sal glider. The idea of a scale heli body comes from my augusta body I just bought ,.NZ $599 Im sure we can do better than that.. Still give me a F86 sabre, beaufighter,spitfire, wellington , heli, or glider , anything and I will consider it as im a modeller who enjoys aircraft, not only mine but other peoples as well. including free flight , rc controline wot ever... Thanks kiwi Graeme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McIntosh Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 To Tony Nihuis - what would YOU like to design for us next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Lewzey Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I don't think you can pick a heli body for the pick a plane competition. I think the lysander is too complicated for a free plan and would need clear mouldings for the canopy and some very fiddly mouldings for the spats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Johathan I think Graeme is tweaking our tails, just to see the reaction. It could be that he is making a point, that the model does not have to be scale. Most of us have made that assumption, that it is scale. I guess on the basis, you have to select something, how can you select a F?? aerobatic model, or a Pylon racer other than as a genric type. I think many of us have many reservations regarding the Lysander, from a build, operability perspective. However most like its quirkiness. In my opinion, most scale models have some practicality issues. However there are some which are far easier than others. Present day aerobatic aircraft, seem to be both functional from the build and performance viewpoint. Most of the Martin Baker aircraft seem to be designed from a ease of construction view point, as is Brittan Norman Islander, Miles M20. So there are a number of relative easy builds as prospective models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi g Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Johnathan you are correct it is pick a plane. I was suggesting the heli idea in general and yes not for the pick a plane competion. But it is where a designer will see the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terence Lynock Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I think your right about the Lysander wing, looks nice but I wouldnt want to build it or fly it because come a good hard landing it would be back to the fixit bench. I doubt it would take many hard knocks before it became non-funtional and in need of major surgery, rregards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Richardson Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Havn't heard anything from Barry lately hope he hasn't fallen victim to the wild fires??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.A. Barry Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Thanks, Tony R, no I am onthe other side of Aus, but it is a hugh disaster,alomst 200 dead. Burnt alive.I hope the news is getting across to you TA Barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Coleman Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hi Barry, I am just near the Bunyip State Park. The fire is encroaching on us gradualy. Just imagine, before saturday we had the daft idea that if we were prepared enough we would be able to fight is when it comes. We have now decided that when it comes, we will just start the sprinklers and run like stink. Cheers, Hugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.A. Barry Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hugh, Bloke, just be safe OK, I wish you all the best, and luck, If the worst happens, get back to me. Barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hi Guys.... we are all getting the news very much so ! Rather than let this thread wander way off topic, I am starting a new one in "chit chat" dedicated to the situation , as we have a few Oz members, and am sure we are all concerned for you guys. Best of luck PS I will copy the two posts above over to the new thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave S. Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Linking the two ideas (forest fires and plans), how about one of the colourful planes used to drop water & fire retardant chemicals onto the fires? I reckon they would make interesting models, especially if they are able to drop water. Round here they use Mi8 helis & cropdusting planes to do the job, but I'm sure there are more interesting things used in the States and, I presume, Australia as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Coleman Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 A Catalina would go down well. Cheers, Hugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Richardson Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 We have two Martin mars here on Vancouver island, I posted some pics of an electric model ( somewhere on this site ) built by a fellow club member that may appeal to some as a free plan, are you willing Tony???? would make a great follow up to your Sunderland. I am suprised the fullsize are not on their way to oz ,mind you the fires could be out by the time they get there they really do lumber along, don't move much faster than treacle at the north pole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Lewzey Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 ok, i just wanted to make sure it was a plane. The IL2 sturmovik is getting some votes. Hope to see it in the final 10/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris C Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 is that the russian biplane?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 I think that is an Antanov, that you are thinking of. The Stormovik, I believe is a rather ugly two seater, ground attack aircraft. I am not sure i like it. Apparently a very effective aircraft though, when provided with good to cover. Give me a Typhoon every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave S. Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 I prefer to think of the Stormovik as having character rather ugliness though I'm not sure I could get with building a Soviet aircraft in Finland! The Antonov referred to is the AN-2, I assume, a very large biplane with flaps and a huge radial engine, sounds like an accident in a a goods yard when running, but the plane takes off in far less distance than you'd ever believe. Ought to make a good model, I reckon. There is one parked up at a local service station/24 hour supermarket on the edge of Utti airfield, every time I drive past it I remember to put it on the mental list of models to build. Trouble with mental lists is that I keep forgetting what's on them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris C Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 haha, yea thats the plane iam thinking off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Lewzey Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 The sturmovik isn't ugly. Sure, not as nice as the typhoon, but the typhoon didn't have thick armour plating to protect the pilot from cannon fire and flak. It was very effective in combat and as one of the most produced aircraft ever, there is no doubt that it deserves to be modelled by Mr Nijhuis. On the contrary, the AN-2 is awful. It is everything i wouldn't look for in a subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave S. Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 How widely opinions can differ - to my eye, a big chunky biplane with a massive radial engine could never be ugly! The only objection I'd have to a Sturmovik is that it requires retracts, not practical for me. Otherwise, a good choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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