Solly Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 What a shame that the recent thread "I/C days may be passing" had to be terminated. I was quite enjoying the lively discussion comparing i/c with electric power, but as is increasingly common, a minority of rather childish people had to spoil it for the rest of us by posting churlish and at times insulting remarks. The decision to remove the thread was obviously the correct path to take,- it's a pity that the people who posted the offending remarks cannot be barred from participating in the Forum in future. That would make the site a happier place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kearsley Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 What truly amazes me is that these discussions gravitate towards such daft trading of insults! Why ON EARTH can't people just be content to do what interests them and accept that others have different interests? Electric or I.C. doesn't bother me one iota - I fly both, and if someone flys just one discipline and isn't interested in the other then who cares? It was indeed correct to close the thread - insults should not be tolerated under any circumstances. Shame on those involved and learn to grow up chaps, for goodness sake! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm woodcock 1 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Surely the trading of insults just goes to prove that the argument has been lost. The difference between the choice of propulsion systems can often be financial. If someone has already invested in either electric or i/c it can be to costly to change, but no amount of abuse is going to change that fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 could be a case of the minority - spoiling it for the majority? ken anderson ne..1 ..... could be a case dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Hi Chaps, well thanks for the positive comments on the decision - much appreciated.It is s pity we had to close it - but it was just heading inevitably for a argument I'm afraid. There are a number of topics in our hobby that some folks refuse to accept you cannot win an argument on - its impossible and just leads to discontent when people try. I'd number amongst them: Which is the best radio system Electric vs IC Gliders vs powered mixing helis with planes supporting the LMS versus buying on the internet I could go on! Its OK to dicuss these and weigh up the pros and cons. The problem comes when some insist "I'm right and your wrong" - because that ignores a basic principal, on matters such as this there is no right or wrong only personal preferences. Also the problems start when folks depart from extolling the virtues of their choice and instead decide to decry the shortcomings (as they see them) of the other guy's choice! Its only a hobby, its how we spend our leisure time. Its not serious - its fun. The watch word I think is to respect the other guy's choice. Its not your choice, its his as to how he spends his leisure time. BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 well put over young dave.... ken anderson ne ....1. put over dept.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytilbroke Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I am afraid that is an all too common occurance Ken. I most often just withdraw from a thread which gets that way. I got a surprise "elsewhere" in thier "off topic discussions" when this happened very rapidly. So I certainly agree with Solly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Randall Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Whenever I see a thread saying things like 'what should I buy', I think 'oh no not again'. People will naturally base their response on what they have bought, but unfortunately some are so certain that their choice is right that they start to become abusive if anyone begs to differ. Like flytilbroke, I tend to withdraw or avoid such threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclicscooby Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Aye... I was gonna say my bit, but I thought it'd get lost in the argument... Closing a thread is never a good thing, that's not what it's about, BUT, neither is trading tit-for-tat remarks.. I've been on enuf car forums where it gets nasty, and it's not nice... If and When I meet any of you, at a show or fly-in, i'd like to think it's gonna be a pleasurable experience, not a punch up over old posts.. Don't want any anamosity, so be friendly to everyone.. . Besides, it was a dead argument to start with.. !! Did horses go exstinct when cars came along..? Steam engine, steam trains, vintage cars, antique furniture, pen and paper.... ALL superceded by better, cheaper, more efficient versions, but yet, they all have a place in modern life...?! Why..?? Apart from the fact they all did a good job before the new one came along, it's because humans are sentimental old fools.. That's it.. No arguing .. There will ALWAYS be someone who prefers it... My job is done, i've said my bit.. Luv Chrisie.. xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno Racer Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I guess that's the problem with t'interweb. Everyone gets a voice, good, bad and indifferent. Without wanting to restart this thread, as was about to post that the opinions were all UK centric. Been a UK flyer that has just spent 2 years flying in the USA and now in Germany; the flying habits and preferences are worlds apart. In the UK, I saw a good mix of IC (2S and 4S) with electric. In the USA, 2 stroke IC is still the king. Some 4S for scale builds, but electric is only seen on indoor foamies. larger planes (90 size+) are converting to petrol, although there was still a fair few Moki 180s and OS120+ engines aerobats been flown in my US club. There is not shortage of demand for traditional 2S and 4S IC engines, nor traditional builds for that matter. Now in Germany, it seem to be mostly electric and petrol, with very few IC diehards left. Of course I have developed to follow UK, then US trends, so I have lots of IC. From my experience, it seems to only be Europe that is seeing such a drastic reduction in IC sales, maybe induced by cost of fuel and noise/EU regulations. So what?, I think as long as there's a predominantly engine thirsty US market for IC, they will continue to be available. Me thinks that is more what BEB was after, rather than the usual slanging match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cantwell Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 its what i was afterI too, even on here, there is a hint at lekky V engines, which is not what the thread was about, as i tried to hammer home, more than once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Grigg Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Interesting,a thread discussing a thread,will there be a thread to discuss this thread,all of a sudden itll be threadbare,can you feel the love on this forum !!!Electri,or IC ,IC or electric ,I do both,does that mean Ive a split personality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 SG....... heap big ... .... at this end reading the above.... ken anderson ne..1...SG fan club dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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