David Gilder Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 A few months ago, Matt Jones very kindly gave me an F16 model that he had bought of ebay approx 7 years ago, but due to other projects had never been finished. It had been bought with the intention of finishing it for PSS. So after a bit of work and some painting, Its nearly finished. So here are a few pics!! Looking to do the maiden flight at the PSSA Lleyn Weekend 11/12 August! I am working on making an exhaust cone for the tail end as this will finish the model perfectly. For those of you wondering, The paint sceme is that of the Royal Netherlands Display Team F16 from 2001. Hope you like it!!!!! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Looks fantastic! Must try and have a go at this slope soaring business sometime. Trouble is, I live in one of the flattest parts of the UK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gilder Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 Quite a few people do Graham! You just have to commit to it and be willing to travel a bit for the good times!! On a plus side, It does generally mean that when its too windy for flat field flying, it will be great for the slope flying!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 That looks great Daid, looking forward to throwing it off the Lleyn very soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Jones Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Looking good Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gilder Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 Well I decided to sort out the electrics today!! Bound the reciever, waggled the sticks, and.................................... Only one surface moved!!!!???? Removed the non working servo and it then miraculously started to work again but did sound rough!! So have decided to remove both servos and replace with new ones! Cant risk a failure in the air!! Should get that done tomorrow then will post a final finished pic!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Jones Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Yeah dead right, 'twould be a shame to waste a lovely aeroplane for the sake of a servo or two. Wish I was coming to see it fly - I'll get to one of these PSSA meets one day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Cooke Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 'Only one surface moved!!!!????' Does this suggest that its Taileron control only with a clean fixed wing? Sounds COOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gilder Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 You got it in one Phil. Its a Taileron model!! New metal geared servos are ready for fitting but unfortunately work has got in the way for the rest of the night! Will try to do a quick video once installed and set up!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gilder Posted August 7, 2012 Author Share Posted August 7, 2012 New servos fitted and elactrics all set up now! All set for its maiden at the weekend..... I will try and do a quick video soon but again, work has interveened!!! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gilder Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 Heres a quick video as promised of the Tailerons in action!! Tailerons from Dave G on Vimeo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Olly P Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Roll on Friday! and throw off Saturday! I just hope I get a couple of hours to get the other 3 models at my place fettled so I can maiden 4 models over the weekend, and remaiden a rebuild! Olly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gilder Posted August 18, 2012 Author Share Posted August 18, 2012 So! Took the model to the Lleyn PSSA Meeting and threw her off the edge!! She flew for approx 6 seconds due to a deffinate lack of roll control from the tailerons. Pitch wasnt a problem!! So the plan now is to remove the last 3/4 inch of the T.E. and put in some proper Ailerons! Will keep you posted.... Untill then, Heres a pic of the model and me from the weekend!! Edited By David Gilder on 18/08/2012 22:46:20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly P Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Loveley model, shame about the ginger bloke It's a shame I missed the (short) maiden, but I was busy retrieving the Sabre..... Next time then Dave? I'll have my Hi-Fly done by then!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Jones Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I learnt on a Hi-Fly. If you want any chance of controlling it double the chord of the elevator and treble the chord of the rudder. Don't say I didn't warn you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly P Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Matt - I had been looking at the rudder and thinking it was a little small. I'll strip the fin back and do some cutting and gluing this week - I might even just cut a fresh fin, and start from scratch. The elevator may get the same treatment! I think I'm also going to do some butchery to the nose and make it suited to fit an electric assistance pod, or a pure glider nose. And back to the F16. Let me know when she is ready for a post modification maiden Dave and I'll chuck her for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Jones Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Leave the fin and tailplane as they are, make just the control surfaces bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly P Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Fair enough - I'll do some cutting when I get time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gilder Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share Posted August 20, 2012 The very first model I ever built was a Precedent Hi Fly, with an Cox .049 mounted on a pod above the wing centre. I made no changes to the surface areas of the rudder or elevator and it flew great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly P Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 OK, going to do the rudder at double size (biggest I can do from Balsa in stock) and elevator at 2 and a bit, again due to available material. Nose plan is developed, but won't be doing it til surfaces are done - need better weather now - sanding only allowed outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Startazz No1 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Got to say it,that is one sweet looking F-16 your got there and you did a great job on it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt How Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 looks sweet mate.i.have a het f16 ,with tailerons. did your one fly. with them .did it fly better with ailerons?? may do it on mine if it gives u more control! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Jones Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 It didn't fly with just tailerons, OK for EDF with constant high speed but no good for a sloper. Since adding ailerons it flies really nicely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gilder Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 Hi Mad. As Matt has already mentioned, I added Ailerons to mine! When I say "added", what I actually did was to cut off the 3/4 inch of the T.E. I then inserted balsa length into the wing to strengthen and give somewhere to put the hinges into. The Aileron I had removed was then filled with T.E. Balsa to give also give it strength, rigidity, and like before, somewhere for the hinges to locate! This was all put back together and "Bobs your Uncle!" When I first attempted to fly the model on Tailerons only, the model had fantastic pitch authority, however, the roll was next to non existant!!! (that flight lasted about 3 seconds!!) With the Aileron adaptation, the model flys brilliantly, although it really is a little rocket!! I have found that on this model, you really dont need much control surface movement.. 7mm+- is more than enough and will give the model a very good roll rate! It would be great to see yours if you can pop a picture on here! Hope that helps. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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