anthony ie tony Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Thanks for the reply Tim, Im not sure what i should make the cabin glazing from for the pix-e major Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Pratt 1 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Hi Tim This last week flown my own build Clean Sweep 60 for first time, well several flights actualy. Only required minor adjuctment to elevator trim to set up, perfect Thanks for an enjoyable build and a pleasent model to fly. Tony Edited By Pete B - Moderator on 12/04/2014 21:58:46 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Marr 1 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Iam currently building the clean sweep 60 as my 2nd scratch built model and my first electric.. So far the build is going well i have completed the wing and staring on the fuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tim Hooper Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 Hi Stephen, and welcome to the forums! I found the pic of your wing, and it looks good. I'm still flying my own CS60 quite regularly, and it's one of my favourite sports models. tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Marr 1 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Hi Tim , thanks for the encouragement I will post more pics as i progress with the build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Marr 1 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 The fuse is now together and ready to fit the wing and start planking ( learning by try and error , and improving my building skills) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hooper Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 Looking good Stephen! I know it looks a bit like a boat at the moment, but it will become a thing of beauty - honest! tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Barlow Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Soon as I saw that photo I was thinking "canoe" Looks very tidy Stephen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Marr 1 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Production has been abit slow to date due to work committments I will post more as it progress Thanks for the incouragment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Marr 1 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Marr 1 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Been very busy over Easter with planking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hooper Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share Posted April 6, 2015 Still looking good! tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Stephenson Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Hi Tim Hope you are still monitoring this thread, I'm a bit late to the party. I'm building up a CS60 with the plans only, and this thread, I have some questions: How much flex is there in your elevator. I've never set a plane up with a control linkage like this before and I find that my elevator is not nearly as rigid as I am used to...usually I can grab and elevator and move it up or down and move the servo back and forth, not possible with this setup. I used a thin music wire in tube up through the fin and out the top as shown in one of the posts. I find it is impossible to hinge the thing such that there is not a point where the music wire has to bend to continue to push or pull to it's extents. I can get a good 6mm either way (more up than down) without any binding but any more and the wire is starting to bend. And then there is the general "flexiness" of the whole thing. What did you use for hinge tape? How much throw do I need? Thanks Chris Stephenson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hooper Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 Hi Chris, Firstly, thanks for following the thread and having a bash at the CS60! OK, looks like you're using piano wire in a tube for the elevator, yes? That's probably too stiff, and will tend to bind. On the protoype I used a dedicated plastic snake (available from SLEC). **LINK** Another alternative might be to use a length of Bowden cable (brake cable from a bicycle) instead. Let us know how you get on! tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Stephenson Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 So, what throws did you wind up with Tim? And what hinge tape? I'm at the point of just about to do the upper decking. Wing is all done as is the tail, minus this issue with the elevator. Thanks again Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hooper Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Chris, I like my models quite lively, so I tend to go for as much throw as possible, and then adjust them in flight with the rate switches on the Tx. So as a rule of thumb; Some elevator. Some more aileron. Even more rudder. tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Stephenson Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I tend to like my planes responsive as well, but not at the cost of smoothness. So I tend to dial in full throw and start with 40% expo...a habit from my heli days, dual rates will kill you there. I'll just start with +/- 6mm then. Thanks Tim Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Marr 1 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Progress on my cs60 is moving along been lots of planking and sanding in between mother nature running a mock here in Australia. More photos of the progress to follow soon Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Stephenson Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 My model is pretty much to the point of covering now, just finishing up a few details like the lower chin scoop and landing gear wires. I gotta say Tim, this is a brilliant way to make spats. At first I was gonna find some nice pre-made FG units but decided to give your method a try, beautiful results and not tricky at all. A bandsaw and vertical belt sander move wood around quickly, so the whole process took perhaps a hour. For the upper front and turtle deck sheeting, I cut 1/4" strips of 1/16th balsa and my final results turned out nice and uniform. Once done, I painted some thickened epoxy on the inside to strengthen it and voila! Good form, light and strong. Oddly enough, I decided not to make my own canopy, opting instead to use one on the shelves of Great Planes for some other plane. It was handy, so why not? I gotta ask Tim, are you a Star Trek fan? As I look at this model, I see a Kingon Bird-of-prey from the original series...must just be that swept forward wing I guess. Starting to see the light now, anxious for that first flight. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hooper Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 Hiya Chris! Glad to hear that the CS is coming out as you wanted! I agree on the spats - many seem to regard them as a s ource of grief, but i've never had a problem with balsa ones. Although I loved Star Trek as a kid, the BoT thing had never struck me. Mind you, I do have a liking for swept-forward wings, so maybe it's subliminal? tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Stephenson Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I'm at the final stages now should be covering tomorrow. Another question if I may, is the CG point shown on the plans for the CS60 at the root of the wing along the fuse, or at the tip of the wing like you did with the Speed Twin? Looking forward to that first flight now, perhaps next weekend. Thanks again for such an interesting model Tim. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hooper Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 Hiya Chris The CG shown is where the wing meets the fuselage side. The reason the CG on the Speedtwin was shown at the tip, is that the Speedtwin was a low winger and so it was easier to balance it at the tips as the dihedral 'lifted' the tips vertically to allow the fuselage to balance as a pendulum. The Clean Sweep is easier. tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Stephenson Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 First flight today, pics to follow. Tim, I'm curious, did/do you have decalage in your plane? I found I had to add a 1/16" shim just behind the rear horizontal stab mounting screw to get the wing and tail to be leveled the same. Probably I got it a tad off when I glued the vertical into the fuse. Also, I found I have to slide my battery all the way back to the forward wing mount former for the plane to balance at the CG, and I still had to add 3/4 oz of lead to the tail. The plans and your pics show your battery, which is heavier than mine, several inches forward of where I have to mount mine. I used some thickened epoxy up in the firewall area and floor/battery tray area and probably added weight there. Live and learn I guess, it's strong in any event. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Stephenson Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 OK, it's flown. A few minor issues to solve but all in all, it went well. I'll be taking that decalage change I made out. The plane wanted to climb constantly, so much I had to top out my trim. Simple fix, also need to check the balance on my prop/spinner and a couple other small items, but all in all, a nice plane. Thanks again Tim Chris Edited By Chris Stephenson on 06/06/2015 22:43:17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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