Peter Miller Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Spotted this model on Ebay. Pretty sure it is a scale model, probably from the 30s. The name on the tail does not help unless it is a plane built by students. Some pictures Looks an interesting subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Grigg Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Its interesting isnt it Peter,looks electric doesnt it do you think.Ive bid on it because my son is at Uni and I can pick it up when I take him back.,if I get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 I think it is scale and want to know what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hooper Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I'm not sure it's scale, but it looks like the sort of thing that Peter Rake would design to me. tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hooper Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Admit it; it's not bad to be able to identify an aeroplane from the style of the model! **LINK** Edited By Tim Hooper on 09/11/2012 20:51:01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Bertram Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Try this link to a French website http://www.aviafrance.com/botali-du-riveau-p-a-m-a-type-1-aviation-france-10222.htm Cheers Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Grigg Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I missed ir by 50p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 10, 2012 Author Share Posted November 10, 2012 Thanks folks. It is amazing the knowledge available on this Forum. The aircraft looked like some of the aircraft desinged for the Lymne (?) trials with Douglas Dragonfly engines. Interestingly the airfoil section looks very like the one used on "The Big Ship" and that has an excellent glide performance. Stephen. I saw that you had missed it, mind you, the winning bidder had bid twice so it could have gone a lot higher. I didn't bid even though it was only about 13 miles from me. Now all I need is a nice flat twin engine and maybe.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogster Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Well I`m gobsmacked. Firstly, because Peter thought it might be scale and secondly that Tim was able to identify that it was. What a team . Peter, I`d be interested to know why you thought it might be scale. Was it just because you thought you`d seen it before? Or was it something in the way it was constructed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouncebounce crunch Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 The impressiiiiive part is that this stuff teaches us something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 10, 2012 Author Share Posted November 10, 2012 There were several reasons that I thought that it might be scale, The dummy engine, few people would think of making it a flat twin. In fact few modellers would design something so weird. The detail of the "screws" round the wind screen and the rigging. Added to that, if you see some of the designs from the late 20s and early 30s it had that same atmosphere. I have a book "Aviation, The Pioneer Years" You should see some of the strange contraptions in that book! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i12fly Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 The bottom picture from Tim certainly looks a big model, I guess that would be over the 20kg..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogster Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Posted by Peter Miller on 10/11/2012 17:56:07: There were several reasons that I thought that it might be scale, The dummy engine, few people would think of making it a flat twin. In fact few modellers would design something so weird. The detail of the "screws" round the wind screen and the rigging. Added to that, if you see some of the designs from the late 20s and early 30s it had that same atmosphere. I have a book "Aviation, The Pioneer Years" You should see some of the strange contraptions in that book! You should have said " its elementry Hogsta" Do you do consultancy work for the police by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 It is a funny thing but if you look at aircraft you can often tell what country made them, even if you don't know what they are. German WWII aircraft have those glass houses with masses of facets. Amercian aircraft have big radials and so on. There always sems to be some sort of characteristic that gives it away. That Botali screamed 30s probably French but possibly British although Most British aircraft of that type and era are quite well known Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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