Peter Miller Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 I was sent this clip. I wonder how may will try to equal it in size **LINK** Edited By Pete B - Moderator on 06/10/2016 10:44:42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban8 Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Link doesn't appear to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Fixed now, Peter - just one letter missing off the address Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 6, 2016 Author Share Posted October 6, 2016 Thank Peter. Finger trouble as we used to say. Edited By Peter Miller on 06/10/2016 10:48:01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban8 Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Managed to find the short film from Boeing. Mixed feelings really, very clever technology to fly the 'plane remotely, but sad to see such a wonderful aeroplane (albeit well past it's sell by date and probably in storage for many years) wind up as a greasy stain on the desert floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Christy Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Wonder what EASA would have to say about it! -- Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Pah! That's small beer compared with the rather spectacularly unsuccessful jellifying fuel experiment back in the 80s (I think) using a remotely piloted airliner... Ah - the power of Google... Edited By Martin Harris on 06/10/2016 12:47:17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff S Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 I think there's been an even bigger 'model' flown. I seem to recall seeing a programme or YouTube video of an airliner (can't remember the type) flown remotely from a chase plane and deliberately crashed with crash dummies as 'passengers' to see how safety could be improved. I think there was a crew on board for the take-off but they baled out once the RC from the chase aircraft took over. There was a lot more detail on how it was done and IIRC control was from a Futaba 2.4ghz transmitter. This is more impressive in that plane was under better control and even landed successfully. I wonder if it was FPV - I suspect so. Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Posted by Geoff Sleath on 06/10/2016 12:46:30: I seem to recall seeing a programme or YouTube video of an airliner (can't remember the type) flown remotely from a chase plane and deliberately crashed with crash dummies as 'passengers' to see how safety could be improved. "The Plane Crash", channel 4. It's on their 'on demand' web page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 6, 2016 Author Share Posted October 6, 2016 Posted by Geoff Sleath on 06/10/2016 12:46:30: I think there's been an even bigger 'model' flown. I seem to recall seeing a programme or YouTube video of an airliner (can't remember the type) flown remotely from a chase plane and deliberately crashed with crash dummies as 'passengers' to see how safety could be improved. I think there was a crew on board for the take-off but they baled out once the RC from the chase aircraft took over. There was a lot more detail on how it was done and IIRC control was from a Futaba 2.4ghz transmitter. This is more impressive in that plane was under better control and even landed successfully. I wonder if it was FPV - I suspect so. Geoff Saw that. 1 1/2 hours of preparation three minutes of crash and they got it wrong anyway/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Android Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 In 1935 , A Radio - Control Gunnery Target Version of the Tiger Moth appeared ( Often Called the DH.82 Queen Bee ) Using a wooden Fuselage based on that of the DH. 60 Gypsy Moth ( with structural change's) and the Wings of the Tiger Moth II . Nearly 300 entered service at the start of the Second World War , It is believed the name " Drone" derived from " Queen Bee " These Aircraft retained a normal front cockpit , for test flying or ferry flights , but had a Radio - Control system in the rear cockpit which operated the controls using pneumatically driven servo's . Four Hundred were built by de Havilland at Hatfield , and a further 70 by Scottish Aviation. Another British First . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 I don't know the details of how they were used but the control inputs on the ground station on display at the DH Museum at London Colney appeared to be provided by a modified telephone dial - providing trains of 1 to 10 pulses to select different control responses, I assume. Must have been a challenge to fly! Edited By Martin Harris on 06/10/2016 23:36:37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban8 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Posted by Martin Harris on 06/10/2016 23:34:00: I don't know the details of how they were used but the control inputs on the ground station on display at the DH Museum at London Colney appeared to be provided by a modified telephone dial - providing trains of 1 to 10 pulses to select different control responses, I assume. Must have been a challenge to fly! Edited By Martin Harris on 06/10/2016 23:36:37 Yes, I've seen that exhibit..................couldn't see buttons A and B though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceejay Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 not according to the good ole' US of A **LINK** cj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Android Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Well, I was referring to the 1st proper radio controlled " Drone" ( probably) . Personally , I regard any " good ole' US of A " First . with a rather large pinch of salt. Each to their own ................... **LINK** Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Christy Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Peter, if you look towards the end of that article on the Queen Bee, to which you linked, you'll see that the only surviving Queen Bee was fully restored from 1983 by Barrie Bayes. He was a work colleague of mine at the time (and we are still in touch!), and he tried to get me to join in with him in restoring it. I declined on the grounds that I didn't think my model building skills would scale up that far! It was a decision I regretted when I saw the end result in action! He did a fabulous job of the restoration. When he had finished with it, it was probably in better condition than when it left the factory! Somewhere, I have an old betamax tape of it in action. I must try and find it - assuming the betamax still works.....! -- Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Android Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Great Stuff ! Mr C. " Keep em Flyin " on the other hand , is a part of U.S parlance I do tend to agree with . Any info; or surviving pics would be nice............ ? and , thanks for the info. P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceejay Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Oh! absolutely much more than a pinch is taken with anything US related, all the things they have "invented" years after they first appeared is quite long I suspect. cj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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