kc Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Tom, if the motor is on the bulkhead I wonder how you inserted the motor - is that a separate front cowl ? Actually I reckon a complete hatch from nose back would allow easier installation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Gaskin 1 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 No, what isn't visible in the shots is that there is no bottom to the cowling, so the motor can easily go in at a slight angle with a wriggle. I use cap-head bolts with a long-series Allen key to fix. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Thanks Tom. It's a very neat installation. I find it's the 'keyhole engineering' that takes so much time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Adrian, Stuart A couple of details on my dads setup. The electrics are all Overlander kit: 3548/05 motor (I think) 4S battery (don't know capacity for certain, but I'd expect around 4000mAh) 11x8 APCE turning 10k 60A ESC Just under 700W total system power. Separate 4.8V RX batt. Model weight is around 4 1/4 lbs. He says it has "plenty of vertical" - at that weight I'm inclined to believe it. I'm fairly sure the fuselage structure was thinned down a bit to suit electric, and the firewall re-positioned for the outrunner mount. It uses a standard kind of battery tray and top hatch setup; a big hole behind the wing, and a small scoop on cowl. The wing is a built up fully sheeted type inherited from the previous IC build. He's quite a light builder. Edited By Nigel R on 21/08/2017 11:13:12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Nigel - is that spec for a Chilli Breeze (48 inch) or the Chilli Wind ( 58 inch) ? At the moment I am planning to build a new Chilli Wind fuselage for electric to suit the existing wing and tailplane I have so any info relevant to the larger model will be of interest to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 kc, that's the larger Chilli Wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Thanks Nigel. The wing and tailplane I have are very light so a 4 pound all up weight 58 inch Chilli Wind seems probable For Adrian or anyone considering converting an ic model to electric I suggest a 'lash up' of the proposed motor & lipo to see where the CG will come. A bit of ply and a few rubber bands holding motor & lipo in relative position may save hacking the model around too much. Even though the electric motor & lipo weigh about the same as a glow engine the weight distribution is very different - the glow has the heavy bearings right forward while the main weight of the lipo comes a long way further back. Therefore to avoid using lead ballast the electric motor may need a new bulkhead nearer the front & the lipo probably needs to go through the original firewall - an experiment will tell. Edited By kc on 21/08/2017 13:33:38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Smith 1 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Thanks, Nigel. Very interesting. kc, good advice will bear it in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 FWIW he's also flying another Mike Delacole design, Rival, a Wot 4 style hack, with an identical setup. There's undoubtedly a ton of other combos that would do the job, this one seems a close replacement for a 40 in terms of prop size & revs. Edited By Nigel R on 21/08/2017 15:16:58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Gaskin 1 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 With all this chatter about the Chilli, I got mine out and dusted it off for a session today. Still flies nicely Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Smith 1 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Nice little model there, Tom. Glad it still provides pleasure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 GentsSeveral minor corrections. Take off Weight is 4 1/2 lbs.Rpm is 10500.Motor type confirmed 3548/5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Newman Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Hi Guys, in the process of sorting my old chilli breeze out, but i do not have the plans and I need to know the C of G please if someone would be kind enough to post the figures for me that would be great. Mine has a Mega Motor 22/30/2 fitted and yet to fly it ( did try it with that motor and a 4s 3200 lipo and 80amp esc) but didnt check amp draw etc before flight and killed the esc. Think it was turning a 14x4 apc so I think that perhaps is what killed the esc. I am thinking of a smaller 9 / 10" prop next time and I will check with a watt meter this time too! Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Keith, you might be able to see the CofG on here? It's a low res version on Sarik's website: **LINK** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Smith 1 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Keith, I have an original chilli breeze plan and the CoG is precisely 108mm from the leading edge or if you prefer 4 1/4 inches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Newman Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Many thanks Adrian. Much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Marsden Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 This Forum is great. I started this post and it has amazed me me with the amount of interest and how many modeller have built and flown this wonderful aircraft. As a point of interest, I moved the undercarriage as in earlier posts but have enjoyed flying with the original Irvine 36 so much, I have yet to convert to electric. I am of a mind to build another for electric flight, as your posts with modifications for electric flight make it a better betas my IC version has a foam wing and a built up wing in my mind would be better. Happy New Year to all. SM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex nicol Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Just a couple of questions. I'm in the middle of a chilli wind build, has anyone built one? Also if the wind lives up to its reputation I'm thinking of up scaling it for an ASP 1.80 fs, I was thinking of a 1.3 up scale, any thoughts if this might be to big or to small Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 alex, I've not built one in a while but I am flying one (on electrickery). 130% would seem round about right to my rough and ready scaling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Smith 1 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 No idea about the scaling, Alex, but both the Chilli Breeze & Chilli Wind are super aircraft and not difficult to build or fly. I have constructed both of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex nicol Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Nigel/Adrian thanks for the responses, I've started a CW 1:1 size build at the moment opted to go for a built up wing and tail instead of the foam type on the plan. I've an unfunded Irvine 53 ready and a set of HK electric retracts just begging for a home The wings and tail are just about to ready to join and then it's on with the fuselage If this lives up to its reputation there might just be a Chilli Gale to follow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 CW would look great with the gear tucked up and away I'd think about some kind of flap for the big one. It's a slippery design and can easily float on a bit come landing time. I'm considering doing a retro fit flap on mine at some stage. And if you're going to the effort of a 30cc size build then it'd be much easier to get them in to start with... On the plus side it will slow up nicely with some up held in, providing you give it the necessary space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Smith 1 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 My Chilli Breeze had a built up wing although when I built the Chilli Wind I had some foam wing panels made for me. This was purely because at that time all those years ago I didn't trust myself to get them true. The slightly extra weight penalty didn't seem matter as she was, as Nigel says, quite a slippery bird! I think I may have started with the old OS 40FP up front with the CW, but the old memory might be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 A 40FP would make the Breeze go pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex nicol Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 gents, must admit, I hadn't thought about flaps. This might seem a bit daft but I've elected to go for individual aileron servo's could these be set up as flapperons negating the need for dedicated flaps or is there a reason flaps always seem to be a separate control surface inboard of the ailerons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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