John Sheehy Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Vintage planes, remember? I bought a Seagull pioneer which is a full size model plane (i.e. 61" wingspan) which rolled over and died, so I fitted the motor to a junior 60 which was very tail heavy so I added a wooden extension till it was balanced. The motor is much too powerful for the plane but if I fit a smaller motor the plane will be tail heavy again. So on takeoff it rolls along for about 5 yards then shoots up at about an 80 degree angle at which point I set the speed to tickover and it floats around for 10 minutes before running out of puff. Someday I'll bite the bullet and fit a smaller motor and the necessary ballast in the nose to make it less ridiculous to look at. But I hate to add weight to any plane and it's already like a concord with orange boxes for the nose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Grigg Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Is there a reason why its tail heavy John? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Sheehy Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Very short nose means it would always be marginal (my opinion, you may know better) and rudder linkage has a pivoting lever near the tail rather than a simple wire exiting system. I bought it secondhand and it had never been flown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Claridge Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 perhaps we will see myron playing CINDERella eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Simon Chaddock Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 JohnTo get back to your Junior 60. When it was designed the short nose was necessary cos engines were much much heavier then and you might also have had an HT coil and a big battery as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Sheehy Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Yes, I guess I'll have to add some weight up front. I need a smaller motor to get longer flight times. I'm using 3s 2250Ma so I think I should be getting more than 10 minutes at minimum revs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 It is essential to get the balance point correct on any model aircraft. The Junior 60 was my first successful radio controlled model, ultimately it was rather like George Washington's axe having had two fusleages and three tailplanes before I sold it to my cousin. In it's first manifestation I had omitted to make the tail plane out of lightweight balsa with the result that it needed 1.5 pounds, yes pounds, (680 grammes)of lead in the nose to balance it! It still flew well with an ex car racing Irvine 21 in the nose and may even have handled windy weather better than a lighter model! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Grigg Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 Where has Bernard gone he probably wonders where his thread is heading.The chairman of our club flies a record breaker.If Im correct it has the wing on a frame thingy doesnt it.He is a mind of information,so if you tell me what you need I can ask him and let you know on this thread.I dont think he does computer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former Member Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 [This posting has been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Grigg Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 You appear to be very right as usual Eric I stand corrected and humble in your presence of obvious greatness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARBON_ROD Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 SORRY !didn't answer any one, my PC went POP, Any way as it has been some time since i asked for advice ,,I have finished my Record Breaker .powered by a .61 MERCO ,I know she would fly with a smaller engine but i kike it and it fits the vintage image.i've put some pics on here for you all ,see what you think ? I'M sorry but i can't get the pics up on this thread but please go to my album . i have put 3 pics on there tonight ,regards TD or Bernard ! PS the thumb nail at the side here is my R/B. Edited By taildragger on 01/11/2010 18:05:27Edited By taildragger on 01/11/2010 18:08:56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Grigg Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Glad you finished it TD let me know how you get on with the Merco 61,ive 3 Im trying to get an engine thats reliable out of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARBON_ROD Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Hi Stephan, The Mercko runs fine ,I got it at a club swop meet for £20 it's been rebuilt i put a 15in wooden prop on she looks a treat ,I flew her once but had a none responsive elevator so had to plop her down in a field at the side of our patch no damage though ,so i put some stronger snakes in and an-cord them down all the way down the fuse haven't had a chance to fly due to bad weather .once again sorry for disappearing on every one . TD (bernard)Edited By taildragger on 03/11/2010 13:39:36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARBON_ROD Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Got another project on the go that might be of interest ,I had an old chipmonk kicking around in the hanger the fuse was'nt up to much so came acrass a fuse at our swop meet with 2 open cockpits very close to beeing a miles magester don't know if is or not , any way the chipie mane plane fits so doing that as a winter job. Edited By taildragger on 03/11/2010 14:05:50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARBON_ROD Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 At last i've managed to get a couple of pics for you.My RECORD BREAKER . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARBON_ROD Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Sorry you got 2 the same ,never mind A! tell me what you think i value comments ,about the model i mean lol PS NO assisted take of comments please ,i know it's sitting on a trampoline .Edited By taildragger on 04/11/2010 17:18:09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Grigg Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Ireally like that TD,Pity you ran out of red CoveringActually I like the way youve done the wing as wellEdited By Stephen Grigg on 05/11/2010 15:44:51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARBON_ROD Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 I did the colour scheme deliberately , manly to get away from the norm and be a bit different i think it worked ,glad you like it cheers TD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 IN answear to some of you'r questions I did finish the R/B and it was 3 channel ,also yes my name is of greek origen but I have never been to Cyprus that was my step dads country ,.probably you all think I/m a rude so and so for not answearing any one but to be truthfull I had one hell of a job finding my thread .since starting this thread I have acquired a T180 I know it's not vinage but it's soert of retro iif you know what I meabn ,I also built a ! FIRE BRAND " ,all can be seen on my album ..thanks a lot every one for responding to the thread , cheers,Bernard . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p smith 3 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 hi all can anyone shed any light on this model its like a lazy bee but its not the front and back are not the same as a lazy bee thanks p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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