Tim Mackey Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 These "freewing" range of EDFs look pretty tasty - especially the only 90mm fan variant in the range at present - the Eurofighter. I suspect these are Graupner units underneath? - but apart from retailers and distributors blurb, I can find little or no user feedback. Anyone got any info ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno Racer Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 SSP is rather expensive though thats the price bracket of the very good aeronaut panther and even better rafiel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 But remember that the price includes all eleven servos, dual VT units, retracts, fan and motor, and even an 85A ESC. The Aeronaut stuff is almost £60 more, and includes none of that!Edited By Tim Mackey - Administrator on 16/06/2010 23:12:54 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Timbo Could you explain "360 degrees vectored thrust "as mentioned in the spec. .If they get things like that wrong (if indeed it is ) it makes me think of overall quality ,especially at that price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted June 17, 2010 Author Share Posted June 17, 2010 Well I guess it simply means the vectoring axis is in both vertical and horizontal planes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Hmmm ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted June 17, 2010 Author Share Posted June 17, 2010 OK so it may not be true 360 degree motion, but with the effect of mixing in the tx, its akin to a Tx joystick being moveable through a 360 degree turning motion. The result will be vectored thrust in both yaw and pitch, or a combo of both IYSWIM. After all, the Tx gibals are simply two pots with a linear motion, yet "mixing" with your thumb movement is effectively making a 360 turn.Anyway, lets not digress - I am seeking opinions or knowledge of the models from people who may actually have seen /own one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Timbo Yep,maybe a Harrier pilot could explain ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott cuppello Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Yeah, fly's ok, lights are iffy...some work...some don't....retracts are appalling....other than that, it's ok.....be ready for the usual RTF....motor....then ESC.....then whatever failure and "I really wish I'd waited for the airframe only version" sort of scenario. By the way, Graupner don't make anything.....it's all just re-badged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Scott Are you saying they're made in the far east? I think there's going to be a problem soon with China in particular as more low paid workers want a decent standard of living . Sorry -Didn't want to get political -but just read a thread about the Wot 4 ARTF bought by a dissatisfied customer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott cuppello Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 No, you are right Myron, that was always going to happen. As I said in another thread, in the USA there has been quite a backlash against models like this....cheap doesn't cut it anymore because A - They are not cheap & B - Regardless of what you pay, people still expect it to work. Mechanical retracts just don't work in foam, there will always be too much give in the material, this is why servoless retracts as being offered by Lander and Fly Fly are the only answer, sadly, Freewing [who I do rate highly generally....well, the airframes] need to revamp this model with the same set up, get rid of the under-carriage doors....'cos they just break anyway and improve the motor/fan/ESC and keep people happy, people like me who have lost faith in stuff like this.....as have many others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James40 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Just to resurrect this thread, I spotted these going on ebay for £150 less than the UK shops are charging, this is for a V2 with improved metal geared servos and electric retracts!It's a stunning looking model with some pretty fantastic detailing, anyway, I couldn't resist at that price so I accidentaly pressed "buy now" and it'll be here in 7 days (free shipping) from China ! Edited By James40 on 23/05/2011 20:25:39 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted May 23, 2011 Author Share Posted May 23, 2011 Gottta link James? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James40 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Ah, just tried to post a link up Tim but I'm using the phone so it's giving a different address designed for mobile use. Just type Eurofighter into the search box and then click on radio controlled. It looks like he's sold out of the RTF kits but he's got the airframe kits that require servos available and for "make me an offer" too so you may save on the listed price of ?214 ? Still a bargain for the added cost of 11 9g servos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 OK cheers Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James40 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 So has anyone flown this Typhoon? Watching the video on youtube it seems pretty spectacular with simply no limit to angle of attack, on one video he simply pulls up the nose and reduces the throttle, the plane just sinks to the ground very slowly in a horizontal plane but almost coming down vertically. I'm looking forward to this one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Shiell Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 James40, I have been mulling over wether to get the Eurofighter advertised on ebay but was wary of the quality. Would be really interested in your feedback once youve received it. Regards, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James40 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Hi John,These are exactly the same kit that Ripmax will charge you 400 quid for so I'm hoping the quality is good. I'll post some pics up when it arrives though and do a little review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James40 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Just going to collect it from Parcel Farce, pics to come soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James40 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Well a mixed result really that started off very well when the packaging was removed to reveal On opening the very well packed and bubble wrapped box the airframe was in full view and what an airframe it is, it's huge !! That's where the good news ended unfortunately, the observant amongst you may have spotted the box by the picture of the nose of the plane, it's got some crush damage on it and it doesnt end at the box That's the damage to the nose, the fuselage is equally as bad although I've no idea how this has happened Split on both sides down the undercarriage bay and on to the wing mounting areas. So, what to do next, I've contacted the shop in China to either arrange either a refund or replacement, god only knows how you post something this large back to China but I don't see how or why I should repair it when it cost me £200. Beware if you buy one of these, they don't travel from China very well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James40 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Such a shame as this is the latest version of the model with the servoless retracts and damage aside the quality of the aircraft is fantastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 That is very disappointing, James - looks really impressive apart from the damage. I agree that that level of damage is unacceptable, though. Good luck with sorting it! Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 What a shame - and as you say the rest looked so promising. hard to say whats best to do...as you say, one of the pitfalls of buying long distance Let us know the story as it unfolds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James40 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Will do Tim, I contacted the seller immediately and he requested the pictures so I've sent the images I posted on here. If all all else fails, I purchased it through Paypal so I can open a dispute and try and recover some funds. What I intend to do is push for a replacement airframe to be sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James40 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Ok, update for you. I raised an eBay dispute with the seller but kept it friendly, I sent the damage pictures to him and he's agreed to send me a replacement bare airframe. I think that's fair of him, my only concern is he's asked me to leave good feedback as I haven't done so yet, he said "once good feedback is left, we will post the replacement and give you the tracking number"I'm sure he's being honest but it just seems a little suspicious, or am I being to over cautious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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