weasel Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I am at the stage to fuel proof the inside of the tank bay, and have a tinof Ronseal Quick Drying Varnish and was wondering if this swag will be ok? Regards Weasel...... P.S The Weather is mule hear in Alnwick, Lots of Rain!! a good building Day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 ronnie/aka weasel-----your new found pal's in the south dont appear to be forth comming with a solution youngin .............here's what i would do warm up some epoxy(as discussed on the phone)..and coat the rear of F1 and the tank bay floor and wall's..this should be all you'll need....wing resin will also do as well...... ken anderson ne....1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I've used Ronseal as fuel proofer Weasel - with good results. If fact a while ago a mate of mine brought some pukka model shop "Fuel Proofer" at great expense. When I looked at it - and gave it a good sniff - just seemed like Ronseal to me - at 4 times the price! BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Channon Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Hi weasel, NO, the quick drying varnish is water based, no good for fuel proofing, you need good old Polyurethane varnish . Regards Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Poly-C is water based PU varnish yet claims to be totally fuel proof.Seems to work as letting my batteries come into contact with it hasn't affected it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Richards Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I have tried water based Ronseal with very poor results. It was on film covering but it went soft and sticky after a few flights.Edited By Bruce Richards - Moderator on 27/10/2010 18:37:39 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 I have used epoxy mixed with some rubbing alcohol to get better spreading and penetration for fuelproofing engine bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo565 Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Weasel. get down to the local motor factors and get a small tin of polyester resin,Its the stuff used in fibre glass car body repairs and it come with a little tube of hardener Best fuel proofer I have ever used and it has a long shelf lifeIts called Davids fast glass resin and it costs £4-65,I might sell you some when you come down to see me, £5-00 to good friends. Just got back from holiday so give me a call when your ready, Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weasel Posted October 28, 2010 Author Share Posted October 28, 2010 Hello sir Jim. Hope you and Carol had a good holiday, have you came back as a pirate buccaneer -arrrrgh! blatant profiteering after overspending on holiday...extra roubles....will ring you later -cheers! Weaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hargreaves - Moderator Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Solarfilm "Clearcoat" comes in small tins & does the job..... Or theres the Deluxe Aerocoat (2 part) which works well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 John What is "Rubbing alcohol" for diluting epoxy . Should I buy a bottle each of vodka/gin/whisky and try them all ? Seriously ,it sounds like a good idea 'cos it is usually a bit too thick to spread nicely with a brush & it would penetrate wood easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 I use meths to thin epoxy for fuel proofing but I've found Skincrylic (no doubt the same or very similar to the other water based varnishes) to be a superb fuel proofer - and you can use it the next day unlike traditional fuel proofer that needs at least a week to cure. Being water based it's easy to work into corners in tank bays etc. and adds little weight. Used externally it gives a semi-matt finish which is just right for warbirds which, I'm told, were often polished to a certain extent for performance reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Martin Thanks for that - I've never drank meths .Does it really set as well & as strong as undiluted epoxy -it might have other uses I'm thinking , especially where penetration for strength on almost non porous surfaces is concerned. Marine plywood for example. Myron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 I've only used it for fuel proofing and for "instant" laminating for cowling repairs in a hurry with 5 minute epoxy. I believe that you can thin it too far but small amounts are OK - however, you'd really need to do your own tests if you were using it for structural purposes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Martin Are you saying that it sets quicker when diluted ? I'll do what you've said and experiment a bit. Thanks Myron PS I just happen to have a small bottle of meths I havn't drank and various epoxies Edited By Myron Beaumont on 29/10/2010 23:11:25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 No - but using 5 minute epoxy for laminating is as near instant as makes not a lot of difference... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Expoxy 2 part resin is my favourite fuel proofer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Posted by Myron Beaumont on 29/10/2010 21:43:11: John What is "Rubbing alcohol" for diluting epoxy . Should I buy a bottle each of vodka/gin/whisky and try them all ? Seriously ,it sounds like a good idea 'cos it is usually a bit too thick to spread nicely with a brush & it would penetrate wood easier Rubbing alcohol available from good hardware stores - about £5 / 500 mls - lasts and doesnt go off. It is a mixture of ethyl and meythyl alcohols - I think - with additive to make it unpalatable. Reference I saw to using this advised against meths which is cheaper, but I cannot remember why. john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 warm the epoxy bottles up before mixing together...it makes it a lot more easy to spreads around and get in all the corner's etc............ ken anderson ne .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Spence Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Hi Weasel, by the sounds of it you have had lot's of useful information and everyone says similar thing's. I myself do one of two things, or both things together, firstly like said above by Steve you can use Aerocote two part fuel proofer. This is great for wood but not so great for use on film (only has a short life on film before reapplying, useually breaks up and also doesent look good when this happens), I useually mix it then apply with a brush to all the area's which need it. Concentrate on the joins of the wood, screw holes etc.. anywhere the fuel can pour into and ruin the wood from the inside out. I useually apply quite a few coats of this as well to insure good sealing of joins, this stuff is great as it soaks into the wood, the downside is the amount of coats and filling the joins. Now, Epoxy, this in my opinion is the best I have used normal 5 min and finishing resin. I my opinion the finishing resin is the best, apply a few coats for a great job, seals the joins and partially soaks into the wood. Oh and if I used them together the aerokote would go on first, I have only done this once though and it was for soaking into softer wood behind the firewall. As for the quick drying varnish, I would persoanlly give it a miss unless you could guarantee its fuel proof, and not only that - is it heat resistant?, heat could loosen the varnish every time you fly. What ever you choose I hope it works out. Cheers, Craig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stephen Lindley 1 Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Two part car lacquer sprayed works great and is very cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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