NigelH Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Looks ok but why does it cost the same as the full-size ARTF ? Surely it has less materials in it ? http://www.sussex-model-centre.co.uk/shopexd.asp?id=34180 I bet that they run out pretty soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 9 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I wonder if we will see ARTF Acro Wot's in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cotsford Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 and not far off the cost of one with motor, esc and servos. Maybe they got fed up with all the returns on the rtf version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Looks like a Webbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelH Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 I really thought that there would have been more comments about this model. Maybe the classic 'Wot 4' zealot is also the classic 'glow is best' zealot ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 9 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I know the foam WOT 4 has a lot of fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cotsford Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Posted by NigelH on 05/02/2011 09:15:25:I really thought that there would have been more comments about this model. Maybe the classic 'Wot 4' zealot is also the classic 'glow is best' zealot ? I bought mine some months ago now, it's not actually 'new' - try hereEdited By Bob Cotsford on 05/02/2011 10:29:45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eck Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 This is the new balsa and ply ARTF Wot 4E, Bob. It's about the same size as the foam-E, but crunchy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelH Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 No Bob, you might want to try here www.specsavers.co.uk and then read the thread again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Geezer Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Anyone seen the larger version of the wot4 yet?my model shop has just got one in looks ok needs a 1.20 motor though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelH Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 Posted by Diamond Geezer on 05/02/2011 11:19:47: Anyone seen the larger version of the wot4 yet?my model shop has just got one in looks ok needs a 1.20 motor though Not seen it 'in the flesh' but I was looking at it on Sussex this morning. There's also a build thread about it on here. I think that Ripmax missed a chance when they didn't include (no doubt easy to add) electric options in the bigger ARTF classic versions. Adding a battery (or tank) hatch would have made it more attractive to other markets. H9 has been doing this for a long time and look at how well they seem to be doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cotsford Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Posted by NigelH on 05/02/2011 10:33:13:No Bob, you might want to try here www.specsavers.co.uk and then read the thread again ah, that's where I went wrong, using D&A! ok, back to the original question then - presumably even though labour costs are lower in the east they will still make up the the bulk of the cost, and the labour, shipping and retail mark-up would be similar for the full size or a 20% reduced version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Experimenter Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 The Mk2 -E and MK2 Foam-E are almost exactly the same span - and yet the E weighs 3.2 lb and the Foam-E weighs 2.5 lb. This seems a big difference! What causes the difference? Which is likely to perform better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelH Posted February 20, 2011 Author Share Posted February 20, 2011 I'd noticed that. It's quite a difference. A lighter model will be more stable at lower speeds (hence, good for a newer pilot) but will be less useful when it's windy. There do say though that 'wood flies good' and I do agree with that myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ashby - Moderator Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Posted by Phil B on 04/02/2011 17:41:32: I wonder if we will see ARTF Acro Wot's in the future I think it's reasonable to assume that an Acro Wot is on the cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelH Posted February 20, 2011 Author Share Posted February 20, 2011 Posted by David Ashby - RCME Administrator on 20/02/2011 14:46:27: Posted by Phil B on 04/02/2011 17:41:32: I wonder if we will see ARTF Acro Wot's in the future I think it's reasonable to assume that an Acro Wot is on the cards. Do you know something that we don't ? I think that would be a good move for them. Glow and EP versions should be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin J Lloyd Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I orginally owned the WOT4 Classic & Sport versions when I was flying nitro models, however due to the increasing cost of fuel I decided to go electric, imagine my joy when Ripmax announced they were doing an electric balsa version of the WOT4 which was under licence to Chris Foss. When my WOT4 arrived I was impressed by the packaging but a little dismayed by the contstruction of the model in that they had used the thinnest balsa they could find so I decided to use the setup that was recommended and printed on the side of the box, the model is now built but I am having a problem with the C of G, the instruction manual says that it should be 70mm from the leading edge of the wing but found the model was tail heavy, so I started to attach lead to the motor mount to try and balance it, at the present time I am up to 145 grams and the dammed thing is still tail heavy, has anyone else encountered this problem and if so how many lbs of lead was needed to balance it. Edited By Kevin J Lloyd on 29/05/2011 08:30:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelH Posted May 29, 2011 Author Share Posted May 29, 2011 Hi Kevin First of all, a decent light electric model will always be made from the thinnest balsa. They should not suffer from vibrations like glow models often do and to fly good without the need for bigger (and heavier) power systems, they keep the weight down. Secondly, and I know that I'm stating the obvious (but it still needs to be said sometimes ), have you slid the battery all the way up to the front ? Is the ESC also as far forward as possible ? I small amount of movement forwards can often make a big difference to what's needed on the nose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin J Lloyd Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I have just received a reply from a post that I put out on the BMFA website and it states that Ripmax are fully aware of the C of G problem with this model but have done nothing about it and renders the model unfit for its purpose, with this I will be contacting Ripmax on Tuesday morning demanding to know what they are doing to sort it out, failing that I will want a full reund from them even though the model is fully built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelH Posted May 29, 2011 Author Share Posted May 29, 2011 What's the wing area and final expected weight ? As you obviously fancied the model, if the wing loading isn't bad, it may still be worth giving it a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin J Lloyd Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 The model has now taken well over 1kg of lead to get it balanced and if it was flown it would be like a flying brick and be lethal if it accidently hit someone, as I said earlier Ripmax are fully aware of this problem with this version of WOT 4 but they are doing little or nothing to correct it yet they are still distributing the models out to their retailers, I will be phoning them 1st thing on Tuesday morning to get an answer from them failing that I will be contacting my local Trading Standards office as the model is "not fit for the purpose it was sold" and contravines the Sale of Goods Act 1979 Edited By Kevin J Lloyd on 30/05/2011 06:36:27Edited By Tim Mackey - Administrator on 30/05/2011 08:50:59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 1 kg sounds an awful lot Kevin - are you absolutely sure that something else is not causing the problem, such as added weight at the rear, or perhaps too small a motor or battery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Hmm ! 1 Kg on the nose (or just behind of course) equates to an excess weight on the tailplane area of about a quarter of that doesn't it Half a pound in old money ? How come I ask myself ? You havn't lost a couple of pet hamsters in a nest in there have you ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hargreaves - Moderator Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Re: Davids comments on the Acrowot......seems my LMS is "in the know" too... See here Seems to be a foam version though.....I was hoping for a balsa ARTF like the Wot4 ARTFAh well I might have to get one of the ARTB versions...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin J Lloyd Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 I am using the recommended power set up as printed on the box and the manual, I know of a fellow flyer who converted an original Chris Foss Wot 4 to electric and that balanced perfectly with no extra weight, my own experiences of the Wot 4 using nitro engines used to balance perfectly, as these models are sold under licence to Chris Foss name I'm sure he would have something to say if he knew about the problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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