Elkana Jacobson Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Irecently received a band saw by power line-burgess model BBS-20 mark 2Doesanyone happen to have its manual?Doesanybody have any instructions on how to set the blade?UnfortunatelyI don't have the blade and belt and would like to know what is the blade size -length, width, thickness, number of teeth?Whatare the sizes of the belt?Is itpossible to buy the plastic ring the saw passes through? Isit possible to purchase any or all of these items?I wouldlove to have websites or phone numbers of stores, and will appreciate any help.Doesanybody happen to know where was the band saw manufactured?Thankyou very muchElkana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Dav 2 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Why not go to the manufacturer's website and there may be a manual available for downloading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Sounds like an ALDI special? - and unfortunately, "Powerline" have gone bust, and I think it may be the same organisation so you may be struggling here . However, you mention Burgess in the name also, so Im a little confused as to exactly what it is. Can you post a picture of the thing, or maybe the nameplate /ID label etc?Edited By Tim Mackey on 27/12/2011 09:27:32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 A quick google found this...is that it? Edited By Tim Mackey on 27/12/2011 09:32:27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 No, not Aldi. Burgess is a well known make from Sapcote Leicestershire and they were using the Burgess Powerline name back in 1970's then became Record some years ago. Blades for this model are a standard length which will be available from Axminster Power Tools ( also they make any size ) Burgess BBS 3.4 & 5 use 54.5 inch blades while BK 1, 2 & 3 use 56.5 inch blades according to a 1993 Record catalogue. There is an american book Bandsaws Handbook or something probably by Patrick Spielman & published by Sterling which tells you how to adjust any bandsaw. Edited By kc on 27/12/2011 10:42:27Edited By kc on 27/12/2011 10:52:07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 The blade length for BBS20 mark 2 is shown as 1435 mm in the Axminster 2011 catalogue while the BBS 20 is slightly different at 1448. This catalogue also advises on blade selection for different materials. ( free, phone for a copy)Dont expect too much from any small 3 wheel bandsaw but his would be as good as any small cheap modern Asian model I would think. OK for aeromodelling light stuff but not really any good for carpentry work. Worth spending the 8 pounds for a blade if everything seems to work and its complete with a fence on the table. Probably spares would be available from Record Power as it's a popular model made for decades.Edited By kc on 27/12/2011 11:14:42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 No recommendation or knowledge of this site but might be worth a look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Chaddock Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I have both an original Burgess BK1 and a Powerline BK2.For what they are both are very useful machines and with care can cut quite thick wood. Getting the blade to run true and properly supported is quite an art (there are many things to adjust) but when you do it cuts very well. 3 wheel bands saws have a relatively deep throat but use small diameter wheels so the blade has to flex quite a bit which can reduce their life. The chances are the blade will break from fatigue before they become blunt. No longer in production so, apart from belts and blades, spares are difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkana Jacobson Posted January 1, 2012 Author Share Posted January 1, 2012 Thank you all for answering and helping.Since you have a similar device would you be kind enough tohelp me in the following questions?What is the right length of the blade in the catalogues itis written the length 1435 mm. I gave the device to a repair shop and theyinstalled a 1446 mm length blade. What would be the correct length or does thisdevice allow all sizes between these measures? What is the thicknessof the material it is made of?In the device I got the 4 wheels (stoppers) are notconnected to the body of the device.Would it be possible to have a picture, drawing, explanationon how they should be attached, connected?Does the blade on its back side need to pass through theslot of the iron wheel?In my country it is difficult to manufacture 0.014 inchblades, I can manufacture iron wheels identical to those I have, in which therewill be a slot that will allow 0.025 blades to pass trough. Would it harm or beproblematic for the device to work properly?Do you happen to own a user manual? Thank you very much for your helpElkana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Drake Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Hi, I was a rep for Burgess Products (Sapcote, Leicestershire) in the late 60s and 70s. The BBS20 in those days cost about £25.00. We sold thousands of them. It was a great machine, and like many Burgess Products it was well ahead of its time, both in design and inovation. It had its foibles though. Throwing its blade being the worst of them. There was a knack to setting one up properly though, and once done they worked very well. One tip; Once a curve has been cut with a bandsaw blade theset of the teeth changes. This makes it almost impossible to make a straight cut with a guide, and this has to be done by hand, giuding material through at an angle. When I worked for the company in those days, if a customer had problems we would visit them and fix any problems they had. Can you imagine service like that these days? Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I used one of these about 25 years ago. It would cut quite large sizes. It did go a bit funny when cutting 3" thick limewood!!! Adjusting the tracking was not too bad. I se to remember one wheel had to be angled. I will see if I still have the manual out in my old workshop. It is just faintly possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seamus O'Leprosy Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Hej Elanka I see like me you are pressing "return" before the text hits the end of the reply box! That's why your posts have the weird spacings. It could be an iPhone thing but hopefully it will be fixed. SO'L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Did not find the manual. Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Channon Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 57 1/2 inches by 1/4 Rutlands do the blades and belts Regards Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Mine is nearly 40 years old and is still used more often than any other power tool I have. I don't have the manual,but I can measure the blade length and width for you. I don't use the guide - all done by hand to pencil/pen/scribed lines. If you find a blade, get a metal cutting blade - it will happily cut fibreglass sheet (PCB material), brass, copper, aluminium, mild steel up to about 16swg, but take it very slowly. It wont cut piano wire though - use a grinder. I haven't had a problem with throwing blades, but it doesn't like tight corners, this will break the blade, although my current blade is now 15 years old. It is superb for cutting balsa block and thick sheet, quite accureately if you make sure the table is level (it can be tilted). Martyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Ireland Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Bandsaw Blades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin dearmun Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Do you still want a manual? I have just bought a machine and it has one I could copy? Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkana Jacobson Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 Thank you very much to all of you who answered my questions! I will be happy to receive a copy of the manual by e-mail or snail mail. [email protected] Since I am a complete rookie in this field any information I can get is a tremendous help. In Israel there is no option of getting parts and almost impossible to get any information so I will be more than grateful (as you all are novice), if you could answer some of my questions. Thank you for the source where I can purchase blades for the saw… is the right size 1435/56.5 or 57 as one of the writers mentioned? Which blades should I buy? Width, no of teeth, manufacturer? Basically I am planning of making small accessories and wooden toys for my grandchildren, a child chair and such and not “real” heavy furniture. The materials I will be using are 21mm plywood, wood up to 50mm thick and soft metal pipes about 10mm and materials thinner than 1mm. Can I buy and where can I buy the plastic disk the blade passes through and the fence or stopper that sets the distance and angle of cutting? What is the size of the belt that starts the machine (the belt of the engine)? Where can I purchase it? Thank you again for all your previous help and any additional help, and more than that thank you for willing to assist. Since you all wrote and answered I looked into some of the companies who sell saws and unfortunately they do not ship oversees. Would you know of another source who does? Sincerely Elkana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkana Jacobson Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 Thank you very much to all of you who answered my questions! I will be happy to receive a copy of the manual by e-mail or snail mail. [email protected] Since I am a complete rookie in this field any information I can get is a tremendous help. In Israel there is no option of getting parts and almost impossible to get any information so I will be more than grateful (as you all are novice), if you could answer some of my questions. Thank you for the source where I can purchase blades for the saw… is the right size 1435/56.5 or 57 as one of the writers mentioned? Which blades should I buy? Width, no of teeth, manufacturer? Basically I am planning of making small accessories and wooden toys for my grandchildren, a child chair and such and not “real” heavy furniture. The materials I will be using are 21mm plywood, wood up to 50mm thick and soft metal pipes about 10mm and materials thinner than 1mm. Can I buy and where can I buy the plastic disk the blade passes through and the fence or stopper that sets the distance and angle of cutting? What is the size of the belt that starts the machine (the belt of the engine)? Where can I purchase it? Thank you again for all your previous help and any additional help, and more than that thank you for willing to assist. Since you all wrote and answered I looked into some of the companies who sell saws and unfortunately they do not ship oversees. Would you know of another source who does? Sincerely Elkana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkana Jacobson Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 These are some of the things i would like to make... Elkana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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