Alwyn Gee Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I know this will be sacriligeous amongst all of you model builders on this forum but someone has to take pity on us less capable model flyers. Having followed Tim's build blogg of the Blackburn B2 on modelflying.co.uk and now read the article in the mag I absolutely must have one. As I commented in the blogg, many years ago I worked on the actual aircraft modeled by Tim and it stirred up many memories. Unfortunately my skills were in the engine side of things rather than the airframes so I have never developed the building skills required for modelling. Please, please, please, I need someone to make this into a "kit" at the very least, so I can drop it on someones modelling board and say "put this together for me" of even better turn it into an ARTF so that I can put it together myself. Any takers? Alwyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hargreaves - Moderator Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I have no inside knowledge Alwyn but it wouldn't surprise me at all if Tims model became a CNC kit via the MHS website.....Tims other designs, Courier, Cygnet, Pix'E' & Clean Sweep made it....I bet the B2 will too...... Patience is required I think.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Hi Alwyn, there are always people that are willing to build models to order. I don't know any personally and there lies the rub, whom do you choose. But if you are that desperate and money is not too great an object, then it could be a route to consider? As Steve says, I am sure it will be embraced into the MHS fold and get turned into a kit of parts. IMO it is Tim's loveliest design to date, and would be a real shame not to have access to the parts. Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon B Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 A short kit is still a long way from an ARTF mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tim Hooper Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Alwyn/Tom, Many thanks for your kind words! Somehow I can't see there being a sufficient market for a full-blown ARTF of the B2 - it's a bit of a niche thing - but there's nothing to stop you barraging our esteemed editorial team with requests for a CNC kit, is there? It's a very labour-intensive model design admittedly, with lots of funny-shaped bits of wood and ply, so I'd expect the price of any form of kit to reflect this. tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Gee Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 Hi Tim, can I send the fuse to you to apply the ally covering. Alwyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 You know Alwyn, not one single modeller was born knowing how to build. We all had to learn from scratch and once you start learning it becomes quite easy. Each new model presents a new problem but suddenly you find that it wasn't quite as hard as you thought. Now I agree that Tim's B2 is not the best model to start with but if you built a couple of simpler models you would soon learn and not have to start begging for ARTFs or people to buuild it for you. I have a photo taken many years ago of a chap's first ever model. IT was an own design control line Bristol Britannia. If you really want to, you can do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Gee Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 Hi Peter My comments were meant to rather tongue in cheek, I've no doubt that if I really put my mind to it I can do anything I want. I'm not sure tho' that I have the patience to see it through' and the ever present possibility that something I had spent so much time on might end as matchwood does not thrill me. Alwyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hooper Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Posted by Alwyn Gee on 16/03/2012 13:11:44:...... something I had spent so much time on might end as matchwood does not thrill me. Alwyn That worries me too. Mind you nobody ever said this hobby was going to be easy or risk-free, did they? I always say to new club members (clutching their shiny new model) that,in the end, gravity will invariably win, and if they can't stand the thought of losing their model then maybe chess or flower-arranging might be a better option! tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Alwyn is of course quite right. Much more sensible to spend large amounts of money and make the model into matchwood. And to help him, ARTFs are specially designed to produce much smaller matches than properly built models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cantwell Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Not all have, or ever will have the skills to build even a simple wot 4, ARTFs with there small shortcomings, have given todays influx of flyers a new lease of life, the hobby has moved on, there will always be those who build, and god bless them, BUT, i have seen witness at every flying field i have been too, of members who have built their own model,and boasted its not one of those ARTF things, well, i have seen brilliant, i have seen mediocore, and i have seen downright dangerous, not all hand built models are gods gift to the flying field, indeed, the %age is low, today, there is a complete repair system in place for the odd crash, we call them spare parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Gee Posted March 17, 2012 Author Share Posted March 17, 2012 Oh dear, I seem to have brought down the "Wrath of Khan" upon my head. As I hinted in the first post on this thread ai did worry that I had dared to mention "ARTF" on a forum of dedicated master builders. Not to worry.........back to the shadows. Alwyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cantwell Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 no you havnt, there is a mixed bunch on here, the can build brigade, and the wish they could build brigade, and the dont want to build brigade, i hope the build brigade will build forever, but for many, its simply not a skill they both need, or desire, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 In fact all builders should be very grateful to the ARTF brigade. I am. They keep the cost of radios and engines down by buying so many. Now if they only bought as much balsa wood that would be even more useful as the price of that comodity might also drop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I can't agree with Alan more, if it wasn'tfor artf's for the most part I woud not have anything to fly. my long term builds are either to valuable to fly as hacks, or too delicate. and it can take years to build a fleet. your cheque book can do it in minutes these days. I think building gets a good chunk of the threads on here because thats what people need help or inspiration with. it doesn't require much information to complete a modern artf apart from perhaps a discussion on where the c of g should go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tim Hooper Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Posted by Danny Fenton on 17/03/2012 19:24:58: I can't agree with Alan more, if it wasn'tfor artf's for the most part I woud not have anything to fly. my long term builds are either to valuable to fly as hacks, or too delicate. Alwyn, I'm with Danny and Pete, so there's no need to be even slightly defensive about ARTFs! Yes, I love to build, and I love to fly my self-built models at shows and fly-ins. However, as Danny says, at the field I tend to fly ARTFs as everyday hacks. In fact, I'm on my second Seagull PC-9 - it's brilliant, cheap and a firm favourite. Concur with Peter too. Without the ARTF market there would be no affordable radio gear, motors etc. No hobby at all, I suspect. tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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