Chris Poulton Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 If anybody has these plans and is willing to sell or make a photocopy and mail to Malta please do get in touch. I will cover expenses of course via Paypal. Would be even better if somebody out there had an unwanted, unbuilt kit of course............I live in hope Thanks all Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 If you look at the Trenton site you will find many aerobatic plans, the Kwik Fli details has a dimensioned drawing and an aerofoil you can print out. No Gangster plans though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Poulton Posted October 12, 2012 Author Share Posted October 12, 2012 thanks kc, i'll try to work with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinPot Pilot Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Hi Chris, I think you will find full size plans of the Kwik fly 3 here Edited By TinPot Pilot on 13/10/2012 00:26:07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Those 2 larger plans are not original but redrawn and a bit vague, maybe inaccurate. Look at F5 & F6 and see how the 'corners' are supposed to be from 3/16 by 1/2 --no way! Maybe 1/2 triangle would do. Note also the fuselage sides and the 1/8 by 3/8 stringer is it outside the fuselage? Too vague for my taste! There are so many other plans on the Trenton site which are original and better quality which could be better. Super Kaos is one, Dirty Birdy etc etc. The smaller plan is an original small dawing from MAP Plans Handbook I think - again rather vague. But enough info for an experienced plan builder to draw his own plan. You should still be able to buy a fullsize plan from Model Airplane News for the Mark 3. The Mark 1 and Mark 2 are from RCM plans who are still going in USA. Nobody ever has an online copy of a Gangster 52 plan! Edited By kc on 13/10/2012 17:18:03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo565 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Chris, The Gangster kits never had a plan,they came with a set of assembly instructions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Poulton Posted October 13, 2012 Author Share Posted October 13, 2012 thanks everyone. my plan was (is) to build a 3/4 or 2/3 size, 40 powered version as an everyday hack and i dont mind doing some minor redesigning or modifying. the link in tinpot pilot's post is not accurate, so kc is perfectly right here. however i think i will still use this as a basis for the model i am after, use the same basic outlines, and change as i go along. maybe i,ll christen it 'spirit of tradition'. thank you once again for the valuable assistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Hi Chris I was just browsing Ebay and noticed this plan for kwik fli 3. Not sure if it is what you are seeking. Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 How about a Gangster 63 lite? see here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 If you want a 2/3 size Kwik Fli then it has already been designed by Phil Kraft ---it's the Flea Fli at 39 inch span for a .19 to .25 glow. The original article and plan are on the Trenton site. Full size plans are available from MyHobbyStores - plan RC 897 ( note it's been re-numbered in the past year it was 987 )and also Model Airplane News. But of course the dimensioned drawings from the Kwik Fli can be scaled down to 2/3. The full Flea Fli construction details can be seen in the article and as I thought the F5 & F6 'corners' are triangular balsa not as in the 'rip off ' plan. Note also its Kwik Fli and Flea Fli ( not fly ) but sometimes Quick Fli though. MHS etc etc does not recognise 'Fly' only Fli A .40 would seem over the top ( weight ) for a Flea Fli sized model when a Veco .19 was used originally. A modern .25 two stroke would seem adequate. Edited By kc on 14/10/2012 16:09:17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Poulton Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 Chris, that kit would be nice but postage to malta is 40 quid - way too much. kc, thanks again, will explore that route and i have as nice new asp 25 available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Wren 1 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Did you ever get a copy of the Kwik Fly Mk3 plan? Mine is the 54" low winger by Phil Kraft which is an unused original plan with all the wood sizes. Could get it scanned and email it to you or post the plan. Regards David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dean Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Look on outer zone, lots of plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Masher Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 However Percy, the Gangster 63 Lite still available, is a brilliant model. Very light and mine is fitted with Irvine 53 2S goes like a rocket and very responsive yet well behaved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Having both a Gangster 63 lite and having also built a Flea Fli, I would agree, both are superb fliers. I wrote up the electric conversion for the Flea Fli on this forum, however, it shouldn't need more than a 21 to make it fly, its only 39" span - a modern 25 will happily drag a 50" span aerobat around the sky. If I was building another IC powered Flea Fli, I would stick a period 19 in there (I have a Veco 19 lined up just in case) or a modern 15 - probably an SC. The trick is to build it light Martyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Kwik-Fly Mk3 here **LINK** GDB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Masher Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I'm already there Percy! I am concentrating on trying to improve to take the 'B' test sometime soon and I cycle through the Gangster - Acrowot - WOT 4 and love 'em all. Can't choose between them, the best is the one I'm flying at the time. They are all IC and I don't see much difference between Gangster and Acro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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