Myron Beaumont Posted January 26, 2008 Author Share Posted January 26, 2008 Al Funnily I wasn't put off by the module but winding that coil .Used to make up circuit boards(veroboard etc) but my workshop consists of just the usual mixture of tools so I would find the generator the biggest problem .Like you I shall shelve the project & see what developments come about .There is a site called "water4gas" you might watch videos etc .Interesting but you have to purchase 2 books to build their system.It's a lot simpler and boosts the economy running on petrol . Doesn't enable running on water alone & requires little or no mods to the carburation system.Anyway,let me know your thoughts if you get any !Cheers Myron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the unmagnificent man Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Hi Bruce, This is starting to sound like we may be on to something. I'll go back through the document and print off the sheets with the lists off parts that arent electronic.Then i'll have a more in depth think about if I can make them. Without going back through the papers right now I cant see the problem with the cylinders electrodes and caps, and it seems you can buy a lot of the other parts from a place in the states.It may take a while but I'll give it another look. All I need then is a car with a carburettor instead of fuel injection. Before we do start (if we do) we will have to make sure that we can complete all the necessary parts between us. Ill post back when I know more. Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the unmagnificent man Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Look what youve started now Myron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Richards Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Al,That sounds great. I was planning to run a small petrol generator and maybe the gas boiler for the central heating. I was hoping that someone may make a suggestion of where we could get the coil wound.Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted January 27, 2008 Author Share Posted January 27, 2008 HI ALL Regarding the hardware , if unobtainable in the UK ( & according to my research so far on a small scale -some of it is ) ,I do have my brother in Florida who might help & as I've mentioned on other threads, spent his life known as the" H2O guru" & actually invented and patented a reverse osmosis system for water purification for aquaria /drinking etc . We mustn't forget that we are eventually to make a system for use in models must we .? After all it is to do with the eventual phasing out of "explosive Lipos"(come & join in Timbo & others with your specialist knowledges & contacts )Please keep in touch .Never mind the sceptics who base their opinions on lack of the latest knowledge, but pure hearsay & ignorance .There is still a flat earth society would you believe !Myron (Al - Where DO we go from here ?)PS Could the coil be made in two halves and joined after winding (easier 'cos 550 ft even in steps sounds daunting doesn't it ) I don't know, but I bet someone can think of an alternative out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Claridge Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 erfolg we once stuffed three and a half pounds of weedkiller sugar mix in a beezer b31 silencer and set it up verticly used parafin soaked baling string for fuse lit it and ran our experiment?rose to 50odd feet then blew up with bang that heard 7miles away had the local plod running round in cicles all day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 I'm not going to mention my bike ride to a quarry near Cromford N derbyshire &/or how I found gelignite and detonators /& what happened to my neighbours garage .No way!But what has this to do with a water boosted/powered system for our tiny engines ? I shall repeat that if you would like the transcript /document via internet I will send it on (for free) Just post me @ [email protected] With your contact address & I will"post" it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the unmagnificent man Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 BRUCE, after doing a bit more research on the net I have found a device called water4gas it seems that they have an agent in the uk just up the road from where i live and they sell the parts to install. The main difference is that you only have a small amount of water instead of a large container in the boot.Anyway I have now decided that I wont be making one anyway, for two reasons. Firstly THE AIR CAR is looking more likely to be released here in France before the end of the year and I have my name on the waiting list. (check out the clips on google) And secondly I am starting to build a Messerschmitt 110 so that takes preference over car bits.Check out water4gas on ebay and the advert gives you a link to their homepage. Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin borthwick Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Is this thread really the goon show mk.2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted February 18, 2008 Author Share Posted February 18, 2008 Colin Try www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImGaraPrEo8 No its not goon show stuff Look at links as well Interesting Eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Patman Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 I'd love to build a small model of this apparatus to see how much burnable fuel it produces over time: is it enough to supply a small engine continuously? If it generates at a continuous rate then that would have to be sufficient for maximum power, but how would you throttle back? Vent the surplus? Store it somehow? How does its power-to-weight ratio compare with glow or petrol or electric power? How much power does it need to crack the water?Oo, interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 I had a look at the site and the Fox news item.Electroysis seperation of water in itself is not new. How many of us sat through the O level chemistry lessons on the process. The problem with the schoolboy stuff, was that the process was slow and more energy (electrical) was consumed in the process, than was obtainable from thermal energy of both the Oxygen and hydrogen.May be his process is unique in that more energy is liberated than is consumed in the process (the scientists Holy Grail).If the gases produced are oxygen and hydrogen, I am at a loss to see what is unique in the thermal process, than past hydrogen driven processes ie Atomic Welding (hydrogen and electric arc) have achieved.I am interested, but wait to be amazed by more substance.Erfolg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Jennkins Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Don't know if this is electrolysis, but I have an awesome water powered alarm clock whihc extracs electrons from water using energy. Can anyone explain that to me?Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 SarahIs the water in something like a tin can, perhaps with some acid material dispersed within the water. If you have something acting as a cathode and electrode, it maybe that you have one of those cells from the school science lab.Erfolg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Erfolg Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Eric As a school boy (45 years ago), our science master, made a battery ftom a lemon, a different one from an old tin can and vinegar, his peice de resistanc e was a few 1d coins,wet paper and and lemons again.Yes that all happened before green energy, recycling. The problem withall these type of batteries is that the volts are low.Not sure why it was done now, othere than it all started with frogs, ended with emf, Faradays law, flemings right hand rule? etc.Happy DaysErfolg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted March 6, 2008 Author Share Posted March 6, 2008 Makes me wonder whether these days our kids play with lipos & sundries in the lab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Hailey Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Hi All.It mite not be as free as we think as the cost of water rates will sourly sore if there is no money coming in to the pot from fuel sales.Owen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John Sheehy Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I used water to successfully power a boat in my youth. it employed two conrods which were called oars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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