The Whistler Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 OK guys, my friend and I are thinking of building a Vic Smeed Tomboy. We would like to power them with diesel engines as per original. I`ve been searching t`internet and the only ones I can find are PAW, not a problem, they seem to be good engines. But just wondered if there are any others out there, 0.5cc to 1cc . Thanks. TheWhistler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Wilson Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Hi, I have owned many PAW engines over the years and would not hesitate to recommend them. They are also classics in their own right I would say; there is history behind them but the company have not been slow to pick up on new manufacturing techniques either. Look no further. Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 The 06 MP Jet is a suitable diesel engine. If you would like to enter your Tomboy in the SAM 35 Tomboy 3 Competition this is one of the permitted engines. The others being the Mills 75 and its derivatives which appear on eBay from time to time. In the Tomboy 3 competition the competitors all launch at the same time and the winner is the one who is down last. I've never participated myself as all of the events are "down south," but it looks like fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GONZO Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 If you do build a Tomboy and use a diesel to power it DONT use any type of plastic film to cover the airframe. Diesel fuel and plastic film covering do not mix - it causes the plastic to go soft and sag. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 In common with many old time, schoolboy modellers, I have a soft spot for diesels. To the extent i still have a number of old diesels. Two ED racers, a 1.5 AM, 1.49 PAW. I have not used them in years. Although I would not really want to use one, other than nostalgia. What actually stopped my usage, was the difficulty of obtaining and the expense of the fuel. I understand it is even more of an issue now. The positive side, is that diesels are quite frugal on the amount of fuel consumed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Whistler Posted December 29, 2012 Author Share Posted December 29, 2012 Thanks for the replies. Hoping to go the Nostalgia route - tissue and dope or may use litespan, depends on SWMBO. There is a Irvine Mills 0.75 on e-bay at the moment £132 so far, I`m not quite that nostalgic HA HA. So maybe a PAW 55 BR then, will consult with my mate. I do have a KINGCAT 1.49CCdiesel for another project later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Would a PAW 06 not be a better bet, looks just as the old/early PAW's, yet has a RC carburetor,. I would also guess that the price is more affordable. The other thing about PAW, they have always been excellent engines, where current spares are available ( although unlikely to be needed). Another aspect, these products are made in the UK, not India, or some other country in the Far East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solly Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 It's worth having a look on EBay. There always seems to be a number of usable small diesels available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff2wings Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 There is a MP jet 040 on e-bay now ,this is a very good substitute for a Mills P.75 I think they may be avalible new from Flitehook ?? also look for S/H DC merlin/spitfire M.E. heron/snipe E.D. Bee mk 1/2 AND there are two AM 10's on e-bay ,one is a later r/c one with silencer a beter engine than the PAW IMO Edited By jeff2wings on 29/12/2012 18:23:04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Peacock Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Posted by The Whistler on 29/12/2012 01:33:30: OK guys, my friend and I are thinking of building a Vic Smeed Tomboy. We would like to power them with diesel engines as per original. I`ve been searching t`internet and the only ones I can find are PAW, not a problem, they seem to be good engines. But just wondered if there are any others out there, 0.5cc to 1cc . Thanks. TheWhistler. I recently bought a Boddo Mills .5cc from Andrew Boddington. He may have more. Why not drop him a line on [email protected] he may also have the .75cc version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDF Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 My free flight KK Pirate had a PAW 55 BR in it - plenty of power. Are you making the Tomboy free flight, radio or radio assist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Randall Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Give Flitehook a ring 02380779836 or email here [email protected] .They often have MP Jets at a reasonable price. around £55 posted I think. Edited By Alan Randall on 29/12/2012 23:11:51 Edited By Alan Randall on 29/12/2012 23:12:41 Edited By Alan Randall on 29/12/2012 23:14:16 Edited By Alan Randall on 29/12/2012 23:15:39 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Channon Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Hi all, i bought a Cox Bomber from Xenalook on ebay, this is a new cox .049 but modified with a diesel head. Brilliant company to deal with, i get all my Cox spares from them and postage from Canada is very affordable. Hope this helps a bit, Regards Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 this looks a canny site for cox engines in the uk as well..... ken anderson ne..1 ...cox dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hargreaves - Moderator Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 PAW are most excellent engines.....do be a bit careful when choosing one however as they seem to have got themselves a bit confused regarding the units used for capacity......they offer a PAW 55 where the "55" refers to the engine being 0.55cc. There is also a PAW 06 which you might reasonably assume to be 0.60cc but you would be wrong as this is 0.6 cubic inches which is 1.0cc... This list of the PAW range might help click here & scroll down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Like yourself Steve, I would either use a reliable old Diesel that I owned, or buy a new PAW. Second hand Diesels on E-Bay have to be pot luck, in most cases. Some of the reproductions look nice, although not necessarily that reliable or well made, nor low cost. The AM I own is a 1.5, which I guess what not meant to be used on sports models, probably intended for CL, as the power is good, compared say a Mills, a lugger. But is a lugger what is required for RC, enough power to get away confidently, with authority, then throttle back, is what I look for. I am not convinced about seeing a RC model, scrabbling for height, as it circles at 3 feet, then head height, then finally clawing its way to some altitude, where there is a greater safety margin. Particularly with any wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Whistler Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 Hi sorry for the delay in replying, been a bit busy lately. The Tomboy is to be free flight, hoping to join in the "chuck and duck" at the Nationals later this later year. Ordered the Tomboy laser cut short kit from oldschoolmodelaeroplanes on ebay yesterday and they have just arrived now. WOW now thats quick. Have decided to go with the PAW engines and have been in touch with them via e-mail, so just got to ring them and purchase said engines. Thanks for all your replies, much appreciated. Must go and open my parcel now. The Whistler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Whistler Posted January 7, 2013 Author Share Posted January 7, 2013 PAW 049`s have been ordered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikram Reddy Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Have you considered the 1.2, 2.5, 3.2cc diesels by Sharma? sharmamodelaero.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Whistler Posted September 22, 2013 Author Share Posted September 22, 2013 No, sorry PAW 049 already purchased and about to be fitted into Tomboy. Also 1.2cc a bit big as I have built the 36" version. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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