Tony Bennett Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 rivet rivet rivet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Leighfield Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I love looking at this detail as long as it's someone else's model, well done Danny! Don't think I'll be going that far though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Hiya Danny Am I right in thinking you took a 1/4 out of the wing seat/fuzz ? have done 1/4 so far but needs more, It'll help with the l/e fairing if I go deeper as well. What you think another 1/8 ? John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 You are in unknown territory there John, the height of the fus side is affected and you don't want to make that look wrong either I am not sure how much I took off a 1/4 sounds about right, but as you say more would begood for the leading edge fairing. However the leading edge could also be the wrong profile, we know the tips are And you shouldn't trust me I have just sawn the tailplane and fin OFF mine....... don't ask I will explain later, or it will be in the bin Tally ho, it's only balsa! SLEC have loads more where this came from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 O.K i'll have a browse at some pictures n have a ponder John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Couple of pictures, maybe not as deep as I thought. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reg shaw Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Looking great Danny, you are certainly getting a shift on with this one!! Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 Thanks Ian, was going well until I realised the tail was crooked Sawed it off, gave a twist and stuck it back! Nobody will know Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 Well I spotted that the tailplane wasn't quite right a couple of days ago, and I kept my head in the cockpit, detailing bits. This was of course my way of ignoring the bigger problem at the tail. But today I looked at the tailplane with the wing attached, got the laser level out and saw how really bad it was..... This picture does exagerate it somewhat, but it couldn't stay like this. I am still not sure how it has crept in, but I think sheeting the upper half of the fus is the cause. Planking is the way to go when building shells I reckon Anyway how to remove a tailplane and fin (it was perpendicualar so didn't need treatment) First off I decided that if I cut along the fin to fus joint, then down along the front of the tailplane seat that should free the front. I clamped a jewellers saw blade between two g clamps and made myself a pull-pull saw Then using one of these nifty stainless steel "etched" saw blades I cut downwards. Because the blade is very flexible it will lay flat against a surface while cutting So I cut away at the tailplane seat underneath. Once the tailplane was free, I sanded the seat gradually bringing the tailplane level with the wings, using the laser level to make sure everything was going to plan. Some more epoxy/coloidal silica paste was made up and the tailplane reseated, and the laser left trained on the backend while the epoxy set..... Shouldn't have got it wrong in the first instance, hopefully lessons learned that even something as permanent as a tailplane that is firmly attached can be undone and fixed You will be pleased to know it is all nice and straight now so we can move on.... Cheers Danny Edited By Danny Fenton on 25/11/2014 17:37:24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Walters Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Danny I can't see what the problem was with the empennage. Looking at the full size I don't see the problem you do. You are such a perfectionist. ! Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 That's one way to get the wing to sit higher up the fus On a more serious note I hope the two that were in that are okay? Looks like the prop was stationary when it came down, engine failure perhaps? Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Nice rescue Danny John P.S he's lucky those 2 firemen where close by when he crashed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Walters Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Danny, Both occupants survived with relatively minor injuries! Crash occurred in Oz. Very nicely done alteration and well done for doing it. How many times have I meticulously set up the tail feathers and walked away happy only to look at them later and see immediately that they are out? Is there such a thing as an anti-geometry gremlin? Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 Thanks chaps Well now my mind has stopped fretting about twisted tails I got on with the fairings. I was going to try a lightweight filler that is mixed with epoxy, no not microballoons, but something the homebuild guys use but it hasn't arrived yet. In the meantime I thought I would press on with blue foam. This may not be enough to get the finish I need, but if nothing else it will get the surface close enough that it will reduce any filler that I do use. I like blue foam, lovely stuff to work and sands well. And you wont get anything much lighter Looking forward to seeing how it looks all sanded tomorrow By the way that's roughly 600 pics, I am going to start a second album to make it easier for me to find things...... Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Blue foam ? never seen it, is pink the same weight? John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 I don't know.... never used any pink foam But probably not much in it especially a small piece? Anybody know? Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I'll paint it blue John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Mulhair Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 That's a rather tasty saw blade you have there Danny. Is it a Swan Morton product? Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 Hi Dennis, not swan morton though it is designed to fit their No3 handle. Its something I stumbled across when looking at acid etched parts for detailing. The blades are etched stainless steel and only 10 tho thick, this is another example (as you already know ) of where it pays to look beyond your own hobby This is not a very good pic of the packaging, but is where I got mine from Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatscoleymo Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Have you cut the end of the flap off Danny? If so, pourquoi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 Cut the end of the flap off, est-ce que? Where did you get that idea Steve? Edited By Danny Fenton on 26/11/2014 11:47:56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatscoleymo Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 It's just me...... the angle of the photo fooled me. I think i must have goosed me brain putting the wing together. I going to need therapy before long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 The wing is a challenge Steve, I have not built one quite so "entertaining" and relish getting back to a Taylor design, just wish Brian had published his Chipmunk plan! I have just had the Dave Womersley 1/4 scale Chippy plan arrive and its very similar in construction to Dennis's Anyway maybe this will keep everybody inspired, I know it has me Fairing uppers are sanded, just need to focus on the leading edge sections. Soon be time to get the glass fibre out Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve T Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I've only just stumbled onto this thread, it's ok though I'm not even bruised. This looks such a great build I would love to have a thrash myself, but I don't find any mention of building from a plan? I love to take a plan and then ruin it by making all my own mods but, hey ho. Have you used a plan as you mentioned cnc bits early in the thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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