Martyn Perks Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Morning all, am looking for a new powered glider to replace my Blaze which has finally gone to the hangar in the sky after 3 years. I want something of similar size but absolutley not foam. Am on the point of ordering the Great Planes Kunai but before I do ...does anyone else have any suggestions? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_B Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I might guess why you don't want a foam model after having a Blaze, but my recommendation was going to be the Multiplex Solius. Please don't think that all foam models are as dire as the Ripmax offering you've just suffered, the Solius is in a totally different league. I've had both (still have the Solius), so can compare with honesty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ashby - Moderator Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Depends what you want it to do Martyn. Solius is a thermal motor soarer, something the Blaze certainly isn't. I've flown both and had 3 Blazes over the years. I've flown the Kunai too and it's a smaller and less powerful than the Blaze so you may be disappointed with it. How much do you want to spend? Edited By David Ashby - RCME on 27/03/2015 12:49:53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Foxtrot Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 It is worth a look at Staufenbiel in Germany, they do a lot of gliders and delivery is FOC if you spend over 90 euros. I recently bought a Fox Pro 2 from them for £135, which was cheap as the £/euro exchange rate was quite favourable. The Fox pro 2 is foam, but very impressive for the money. It thermals well and will no doubt perform well on the slopes. I also own a soulius which is great. I have flow this from flat fields and slopes and it performs well. The only thing about the solius is that it has an aluminium strengther in the rear fuselage which can bend in a heavy landing and it is diffcult to see how to bend this back without damaging the fus. I have seen this happen more than once during heavy landings on the slopes. I would have gone for CF tubes Edited By david fillingham 1 on 27/03/2015 13:01:03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extra slim Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 +1 for Staufenbiel in Germany. Got a cheetah warmliner a year or so ago. Great service, good price, good model...step up and better than Blaze or multiplex blizzard....IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bran Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Posted by Bill_B on 27/03/2015 12:31:14: I might guess why you don't want a foam model after having a Blaze, but my recommendation was going to be the Multiplex Solius. Please don't think that all foam models are as dire as the Ripmax offering you've just suffered, the Solius is in a totally different league. I've had both (still have the Solius), so can compare with honesty. Well, I can compare with honesty, too...........they do not compare because they have a completely different purpose and an even more different price! The ST Models Blaze and its alter ego the Durafly Dynamic-S were perfectly adequate warmliners and perform very well on the slope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Perks Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 Am looking to spend around £150 on the airframe. Don't mind if it's a bit more... I enjoyed the performance of the Blade and it's simplicity and useability. It's just the foam eventually gets tatty and I hate raggy models Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ashby - Moderator Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 +1 for Staufie, have a look at their Cheetah or Spirit motor gliders/hotliners. I've got a Cheetah too and it'll use the 3S batts you've used with the Blaze but with far better performance. There are plenty more to look at too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_B Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Another good site for many motor gliders is Topmodel.fr. I've had a few orders from them and they're equally as good as Staufenbiel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_B Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Not forgetting UK based T9Hobbysport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Perks Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share Posted March 28, 2015 Thank you all for the excellent advice. Have just ordered The Cheetah! Just need motor and speed controller now. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Perks Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share Posted March 28, 2015 And some new servos, I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_B Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I'm using one of THESE in my Solius and climbs vertically on a 3s 2200mAh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Hi Martyn,I share Bill B's enthusiasm for topmodel in France. I'm building my second beginaero, a sort of warmliner...And it's a laser cut kit. I'm mightily impressed. Also, the pound is so good against the euro that you get great value ernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extra slim Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I use a 4s setup on mine. A flat rhino 2350 slides in nicely, and a mega 30e motor which is about 800kv, and a 12" prop from memory. It isn't super quick but good fun. I also joined the wings and expoxied them into a one piece, as with the 4s I experienced a little wing flex....it's a great cheapish warm liner. Also programmed a little "spoiler" with both ailerons on a switch rising about 3mm which does work nicely on landing. Flick it on and off and it bleeds off speed. The only thing I had to mess with on mine was canopy fitting. I'll try and dig out a photo of mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Sorry guys, the topmodel is begin'acro, not begin aero. Should have checked ernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_B Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I should have added that I'm using a 13" x 7" Graupner Cam folding prop with the motor I linked to (effectively a 15.25" x 7" due to the 2.25" yoke), and its drawing 38.8A statically, but unloads to roughly 34A once airborne. Using a 4s battery and smaller prop it should really bring the Cheetah to life in true Hotliner style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickw Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Posted by Bill_B on 28/03/2015 12:09:10: I should have added that I'm using a 13" x 7" Graupner Cam folding prop with the motor I linked to (effectively a 15.25" x 7" due to the 2.25" yoke), ................ Are you sure? All the folding props I have used (including some Graupners) have quoted the size as fitted to a nominal sized yoke - i.e I would expect a 13x7 to be a 13x7 when fitted to something like a 40mm yoke. Been a while since I use a Graupner, so I coud be out of date . Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_B Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Good call Dick and I offer humble apologies. I've just dropped a ruler across the prop arc and it's actually 14", not 15.25" as I initially thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extra slim Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Not the best pics, but here is the cheetah. As I say 4s, mega motor, graupner cam 12", savox 0257 servo on ele, hs65mg on ails. I like it.. Going well, no need for launch, just let go really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickw Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Posted by Bill_B on 28/03/2015 19:32:03: Good call Dick ....... I've just dropped a ruler across the prop arc and it's actually 14", not 15.25" as I initially thought. I thought that would be the case, but it's best never to assume anything. While we are on that subject I might as well point out that increasing the diameter with a larger yoke also increases the pitch. I know it sounds illogical at first thought, but if you look at the geometry involved it does make sense. Your original 13x7 is now closer to a 14x8 - a useful way of experimenting with prop sizes. Extra Slim - that Cheeta looks nice. Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Perks Posted March 29, 2015 Author Share Posted March 29, 2015 Looks good in the flesh.. Gliders not bad either LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extra slim Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Hahaa easy Martyn...yeah the chubby cheetah. Was taken a year ago and it's owner is now 3.5 stone lighter!!...so now nearly as good looking as the glider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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