Peter Miller Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 That is the right sequence. I know someone who did not read the instructions and then complained that he had a gap at the bottom of the root ribs. He got no sympathy from me or one or two others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 Yes I was going to but R1 had not been glued in so I double checked by looking at your instructions, and then I remembered why R1 had not been glued in. Join the wings before gluing R1 then there are no gaps. It's a magic method, as I said before. Thanks Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 Second wing ready for joining to first wing. Tomorrow if it is too hot to fly again. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 Ok I couldn't wait. This is dry fit. My enthusiasm got the better of me. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 Another sunny morning with light winds. Dry fit R1 into second wing. Test assemble just to check the fit and assembly method. There is nothing worse than applying the glue then finding out that the parts do not fit. Looks good except TE does not line up. Fortunately this area of wing is fully sheeted so with a bit of sanding no one will know, especially at fifty feet I have been told. I now need to make a list of what needs doing before the wings are joined. 1 paper tubes for servo wires 2 wing servo mounts Please add to the list. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Yes...it is a good idea to fit the paper tubes before joining. the wings. It is almost impossible once they are joined. Now how do I now that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 Peter obviously you have been told many times by novice builders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 NOPE!!! Done it myself!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 You have to be joking! Unless it was when you were a novice builder too. Just tried to fit the tubes and the holes in the ribs are too small. The servo plug just goes through. As I will be using extension leads I will fit them before sheeting the wing centre section. There's always a way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Nope! Just trying to build too fast!! Two things. I don't make the tube up.I roll paper round a dowel, insert the dowel with paper down the holes and then release the paper so it unrolls to fit the tubes. Then I apply glue to hold it in place. The paper tube only need to be one paper thicknes with a slight overlap. 1/2" (12mm) holes are normally big enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 Nope! Just wont fit with paper tube. Tight or what? It's an eight mm hole intended for push rods exactly as shown on the plan. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Ah well! If you must use two servos,you will just have to open the holes out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 Odd that when I was gluing the ribs in I thought the holes looked small. It would have been easy to open them out before building the wing. No problem I will go with plan B and fit extension leads before sheeting the wing. BTW you have not pulled me up for removing the wing from the board. Well I had to because I forgot to do something. Looking at the plug in the rib there are two slots cut into the rib these are for the wing joiner to slot into. I did not cut these slots before fitting to the wing, even though they are shown on the plan. It was when I came to fit the wings together that I realised . So for anyone following along enlarge the holes in the ribs and cut the slots in the inboard R2 rib these are two lessons to be learned. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 Wing joining. First I glued both R1 parts and the pilot drilled hardwood UC block. Then joined the two wings at last Using pegs, clamps and weights. The right wing is propped up under the last rib to give two inches of dihedral. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 Wings are joined and I have to show you the results. What! No gaps. Party time. Yes a result. And what did I do? Followed the tried and tested Peter Miller method. This is the best and easiest of the four wing joints I have done so far. Yes this is my fourth build, two kits and one other plan pack. Amazing. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 Wing LE sheet which was wet and shaped on the wing a couple of days ago. Completely dry and it has kept it's shape. and on the wing Doing this makes the LE sheeting easy because it will fit the profile with very little effort. So now to glue it in place. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 I might try that next time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 I find it saves all the pins, pegs and tape. It does take longer to do due to waiting for the sheet to dry. If like me you are not in a hurry then there is no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 LE sheet done and trimmed. Nice joint! and servo extension lead installed so I don't forget this time. But I had to use tape on the LE and it was not as easy. I think this could be due to me completely drying the sheet out whereas on the first wing the sheet was damp. Anyway I have decided not to stress about it because it is fine. More sheeting tomorrow when I get back from flying. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 After flying my new Phoenix 2000 V2 this morning On to the wing sheeting, as promised yesterday. Place the sheet on the wing and mark the end of the curve. Use your favourite toffee pot to mark the curves and the left hand straight line. Cut the straight lines. Then the curves with a sharp knife just inside the lines so they can be sanded to fit. Place on the wing and mark the cut line to remove the overlap. Cut just leaving the pencil line showing. Test fit on the wing. I assure you it is a good fit when pressed into place. Form a hinge with tape open up an apply glue Place on a flat surface and remove excess glue and weight down using plastic above and below. Leave to dry and while waiting check that there is nothing else to do on the wing before this section is covered. Ah yes scrap blocks at the TE mounting plate. Nearly Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 Fitted scrap blocks, while I remember Sheeting has dried so removed the tape hinge from the under side and lightly sanded the top side before fitting. Dry fit to wing and make any adjustments. Looks good to me. Too late to glue in place tonight, I will only bodge it up as I usually do when I am tired. Back tomorrow for more fun Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 I can see that this is goi8ng to be a concourse winning model Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 You flatter me Peter I have a theory that if I make everything as perfect as I can then the better the plane will fly. I have been accused in the past of being too much of a perfectionist, not that I have ever thought that I was. I simply like to make a good job, which leads to job satisfaction, which is a result in it's self. With the Ballerina I hope I can do your excellent design justice. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 You are so right! The better a model is built the better it should fly and the stronger it will be. There is nothing wrong at all with being a perfectionist. I must admit that when I do strive for a perfect finish I am extremely proud of the result. Many years ago I scratched a living making desktop models of aircraft (mainly sailplanes) for people and I even had an agent in the USA. Everyone of those had to be perfect and it was a strain. I did one or two models for my self. This is my Springfield Bulldog hand carved in limewood. My control line B-17 and My best, 1/12th scale Dunlop Pitts. static scale. Built as per the full size with a fuselage frame soldered up from brass tube, wings and tail built up and tissue covefred etc and all detail as per the full size including fibreglass spats and cowl etc. So I can do it when I set my mind to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 Wow! Unbelievable! Amazing! Should I give up now? Maybe I should work on the basis that if you can do it then I should at least try. Yes I will keep going. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.