Danny Fenton Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 Thanks Eric, there is a Mustang loitering here that I started in 2007 Just needs wings. 50 percent finished only 95% to do..... some G10 has finished the opening. That will do til after glassing. I now have a pattern for the other nacelle. Gone from bipe with too many wings to a twin with too many engines Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Hi Danny, I've started on one of Richard Wills semi scale Spitfires it will take about 2 weeks if the weather stays as it is. After that the next build will have two wings or two engines or both as I have to many single engine planes. A Saro London would be a good subject. Cheers Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Well hello Apache good to see you again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 It has only been ten years since I started this project, good things come to those that wait...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 Oh may as well show you I made a lip for the end of the exhaust, just to see if I could... Fun but not really needed at this point of the build Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bisset Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 This is fascinating stuff Danny, terrific. (I have only just found this thread, so am looking back through some intriguing pieces of work and interesting techniques. Wow! The aircraft pictured as your header on this topic belongs to a friend of mine and is based nearby, so if you plan to use that colour scheme let me know. Photos could be arranged. I see you got a good source of Apache photos a while back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 Hi John, glad you are enjoying it so far. The intention was to model mine on Foxtrot Victor, and would love some pictures, I did scour the web for some and found a few, but more is always good. As you say I have several pics of TF-JMH from a great photographer Graeme Molineux, which is a lovely scheme too. Any idea of paint codes for Foxtrot Victor? Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bisset Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 I shall ask the owner this evening by email. I suspect the paints may well be to the old Piper standard, it certainly looked like that to me - shades that look very similar to the scheme on the Super Cub I used to fly. G-APFV was G-MOLY at one time. John, the current owner returned her to the 'FV marks I believe because his uncle had owned her under those marks. Cheers, John B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 Thanks John, very interesting indeed. I know it flies into Breighton frequently. Where is it based these days? Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bisset Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 It is based at Insch now, previously at Longside. John B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 Thanks John a bit far for me to go and see her. One day. I have spent most of the last two days trying to get my head back into Jeti, not that my head really ever was into Jeti. The TX is the finest made, has wonderful features, an amazing dual path built in. But the programming I really struggle with. Having spent a fair bit of time lately setting up OpenTx on my Horus (Hawker Fury) my mind was struggling with the Jeti way. I watched lots of Harry Curzon's fabulous videos and got what I wanted done, but OpenTX is so much more intuitive. In my perfect world I would love to see OpenTx Operating system on Jeti. maybe one day.... So I am gradually picking up where I left off. filled in the missing bits of foam blocks at the wing tips. Not really worthy of a picture, and I added the 1/64 ply trailing edges. I made a rebating sanding block to form the rebate, then the 5mm wide strips of ply were glued on with thin CA. I had forgotten how big the model is, 1/6th scale is 74" but it fills my workshop bench. Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 John's friends Apache just after a respray, these are the colours I will match too, I like the cream and red, traditional Piper colours, although I am led to believe via John the red is from a Russian red star insignia as the guy had some paint from a previous job. The model wont be for serious competition, so I dont think the colours will be crucial, but I want them close. There is a local paint factors close to me that I have heard good reports from, I will give them a try for auto base-coat, then Klass Kote gloss clear over the top. Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Hi Danny, that's a nice looking model and a nice size workshop. Had the Fury out again with the tags on the struts, threw it about the sky ( it knife edges great) and the struts stayed on. Cheers Eric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Looks great Danny. A very pretty looking aeroplane and a sensible size as well Martyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share Posted July 9, 2020 Great news on the Fury Eric, glad its sorted, however you will get frowns from the scale flyers doing a knife edge with a Fury Hi Martyn, a Marmite plane I think. Love it or hate it. I love it. The later longer nose variant spoilt the lines. Probably not much to see for a while, lots of sanding and glassing to do.........you have seen me do that dozens of times over the last ten years. Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris larkins Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I'm really happy to see you back on the Apache, would love to build one of these. I recently received a job lot of faux rotating beacons that I ordered on eBay (China), I'm more than happy to stick one in the post to you if you think that it would be of any use (it looks like the one on top of the fuselage). They are fitted with a standard JR servo plug and run off receiver voltage and the speed / pattern is adjustable from the TX, the first speed is way too fast but the second speed looks pretty good. LINK TO VIDEO OF BEACON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 Hi Chris, that is very kind of you, If you can spare one i will be happy to see if i can fit it. I have a beacon on top already part of a full led set, not doubt not as good as yours, the wiring in that area may be impossible to access, so I may not be able to replace it. I had a quick conversation with Ton, my co-conspirator, and he has said we can make changes to the plan after its flown and proven incidences etc, we can then incorporate a removable wing centre section which will make this model so much easier to build and maintain. Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 A little bit more progress, loads of loose bits all glassed. Starting on the big piece, one wing stub, and nacelle glassed. Not using peel ply, so am accepting that I will have to do more sanding than if I had used peel ply. That piccy has highlighted some overly wet areas, I will mop them with kitchen towel Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 Chatting with a friend and being shown Gordon Whiteheads formula for calculating the C of G of a model, I thought I would calculate it while waiting for resin to dry.... The formula says C of G = mean chord (wing) / 7 + (3 x the tail area x the tail moment / 8 x wing area) So some tapping on the calculator after working out the areas and moment from the Turbocad drawing gave me 3.9653 ins from the leading edge, or 100.7 mm. that's 34.7% I think I will double check the sums Cheers Danny Edited By Danny Fenton on 15/07/2020 14:36:08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ton van Munsteren Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Hi Danny , It really is great to see you making such progress on the Apache. And can wait to see the maiden of te model so I can get started on the redesign of the Apache hoping to see many more Apache's Cheers, Ton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 I was worried you might have lost the files when you had a PC crash? Really glad you are still enthusiastic about the project I have had a few equiries about a kit or at least a plan. Lets hope it flies okay Cheers Danny Edited By Danny Fenton on 15/07/2020 19:31:50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsay Todd Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Super job Danny, been quietly watching in the background and looking forward to seeing this one completed, must catch up soon. Linds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 Hi Linds, and thanks, good to know you are keeping an eye on me, waiting for an update on your twin Not much to report, still glassing, with only being able to mix 20 minute batches it is taking a while, and boy am I fed up with glassing...... Closed up all the gaps and holes in the tail cone area, this means I can glass the fuselage. It will have to be done in overlapping sections. The tail-plane/fin are just positioned not attached permanently yet. But we are making progress Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vecchio Austriaco Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Had a forum break for about 4 years - looking at your thread I thought - impossible - this model must have been ready by now .... But as it looks you had a few little breaks as well. Well always a pleasure to look at your builds. VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 Hi VA lovely to see you back Yes a few breaks, other models kept getting in the way. Glad you are enjoying the build Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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