Phil Winks Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Posted by Chris Bott - Moderator on 06/10/2012 20:17:04: I did wonder that Malcolm, and the figure of eight shaped formers that mean curved balsa sides aren't the perfect introduction for those that havn't built before either. I may be mis interpretating this but from what I can see from the available pics the pushy cat is pretty much slab sided ! Is it not ?? Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 They could well be Phil. I was probably at cross purposes talking about the low winged Tucano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Thanks for the plan link WolstonFlyer. When I search for Tucano all I get is this: Search Results for - tucano Articles View all results in Articles (1) Seagull Super Tucano Forums View all results in Forums (22) World Models Tucano 60 - Leccy or 91 4st? Shorts Tucano Tucano 30 None of which refer to the plan - what am I doing wrong?? GDB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Winks Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I think the trick with the toucano for begginer flyers would be to slightly increase the dihedral and omit ailerons to give a slightly more stable simpler flyer. given that the Pushy cat is not looking like becoming the mass build subject I think I may try a sheet foam version as an "alternative build" alongside the mass build looks like a real candidate for a foamy park flyer Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Winks Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Caveman have a look at your spelling of TOUCANO think that may be where your running astray mate Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 In response to malcolm's point earlier, bear in mind guys when we talk about "beginners" here we are meaning "beginners to building from plans" not necessarily people who are beginners to flying. Many of those that have taken part before have been experienced and accomplished flyers - but have always flown ARTF's. That's the sort of "beginner" the mass build is aimed at. With the exception of the Bushwhacker I would not claim any of these models are very well suited to a complete beginner in the context of flying. Although I also think that any of the others are "flyable" by pilot with some, but perhaps limited, experience. BEB Edited By Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator on 06/10/2012 20:55:30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Winks Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Point take BEB I just need to be more definative with my language lol Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 On the whole issue of plan/canapy prices. This is a vote for what you want to build. Decide on that basis only. Now, if an MHS design is choosen then I think you can take it as read that we (the mods) will do our best for you in approaching the company, explaining the situation, and seeing if we can't secure some type of discount given that 50+ plans/canopies and maybe even woodpacks are likely to be sold. Obviously, no promises - but we will try and I agree I think we would have a good case to push. But,...in my view that is an issue for after we have selected - not now. If we did do that now then I am sure that there are those on here who would immediately accuse us of seeking an advantage for MHS by dangling an unfair carrot. So, lets for now just discuss the building and flying merits of these proposals and get on with choosing the model we want to build and fly, and let's cross the other bridges if and when we come to them BTW - it wont help such negoiations if there is wide spread and onvious talk on here of folks swopping "blackleg" plans! BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolstonFlyer Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 CavemanYou are searching on the wrong website.... your search result list is from the search box at the top of this website (modelflying.co.uk)The plans are on the myhobbystore.co.uk website where all of the other RCM&E plans are for sale.Edited By WolstonFlyer on 06/10/2012 21:16:58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 Some folks were asking about IC conversions of Nigel's designs. As has been stated Nigel includes details of the IC conversion of the Whizzza on the plan, regarding the Tucano - well no details from Nigel as such but as the video below shows its certainly well possible... It also shows what amazing flier it is (even if the landing is less than perfect! - we all do one of thos occassionally - well I know I do!). Its amazing to me to me that what is just a sheet wing flies so well! BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 Caveman, The Tucano we are basically talking about is this one, or its "baby brother" this one. BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 All in the interests of balance, how about another look at just how well the Whizzza flies. It probably wouldn't look as daft as the Tucano does with a lump of I/C sticking out either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew767 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Yep Chris....I voted Whizzza...But....MHS do not seem to list the canopy anymore!! Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Kearney Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Nice video Chris, is that yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Andrew I understand the canopy is available from Vortex, even if it doesn't show on their website. Of course we will also be doing everything we can to make as much available as we can at the best deal we can as soon as the winner is decided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 Andrew - don't worry, I'm sure we'll be able to sort out canopies etc. for whatever we choose. BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Robin no I wish it was mine. It's one reason I'm keen on doing the whizzza and why I think it deserves a little more promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolstonFlyer Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I voted for the whizzza, it looks like a good project for a new balsa builder like I will be. I might build the whizzza anyway even if the tucano wins in the voting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 Nice video of the Whizzza Chris. Again showing the flying qualities of Nigel's designs. And beautifully flown I thought. BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Kearney Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Chris, agreed about the Whizzza, so much to apeal: size, cost, performance. It is so tempting, Mass Build or not Slightly off topic, does anybody know when Nigels canard will be published, I notice he has teased us in a couple of articles, I've always had a soft spot for canards. r. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Hawes Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Apologies for that, some weeks ago I broke a vertebrae and severely bruised a kidney in an accident at work and this has completely halted any development on the canard free plan design for now. However I expect to be back on my feet pretty soon so I should be able to get it through the mill for a Spring issue in time for next season. Nigel Hawes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 Sorry to hear about that Nigel - hope you'll be "up and about" soon. Look after yourself, we need more Nigel Hawes' designs! BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Kearney Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Crickey Nigel, that all sounds very unpleasant! Understandable that drawing toy aeroplanes has taken a back seat for now. Hope you make a full recovery soon. When the canard is finished it has at least one fan already from the teaser shots alone r. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew767 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Chris and BEB.............Thanks regarding the canopies. Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeS Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Well I have a Whizzza that I built last year so the Tucano is my preferred build. Just been reading the rules for the build sooooo increasing the plan size, beefing up the stress areas, fitting retracts and a RCV fs is a little over the top... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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