Bucksboy Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 After ordering last week, inside a week the laser cut short kit for the Brian Taylor Bf 110 has arrived. I ordered the cockpit moulding at the same time and that arrived, well packed and all in good condition. I've had the plans for ages and after the demise of my BT 109 I've decided to make a twin. I like the way he designs his planes and the short kit takes all the hard work out of the build. This is a simpliefied model, no flaps and he used fixed undercarriage. First impressions are very good, the wood is nearly falling out from the blanks and most parts are marked with their part number. Hopefully it will fly next summer in time for our club Scale Competition. I intend to electrify this one to get over the perils of one engine quitting. I'll also put electric retracts in too, it can't have the bits dangling down. The plane will be glassed, he gives a target weight of 8.5 lbs for a 72" wingspan plane. I doubt if I'll get that light though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pensioners1938 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 My first love has always been scale and Brian Taylor is the man for me. What are you going to power the 110 with? Edited By pensioners1938 on 18/09/2013 16:39:39 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Atkins Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I have had these plans now for quite a few years and keep putting of the build. I will be watching your build with great interest and hopefully will give me the kick to start mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen johnson Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 i built one a couple of years ago but scrapped it before it was finished. i now have a woodpack to build one when i have time. My one is going to use brushless motors although making space for the batteries might be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I'll be following this one with interest. Despite the huge numbers of 110's built you don't see it modelled that often. BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsay Todd Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 You don't see many built, I saw one some years back I think not long after the plan pack was first relased. Despite the layout the single engine performance was not great and that's possibly the answer. Electric should largely resolve that however so will make a refreshing change to see one again. Whatching again with much interest. Linds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Should be interesting to follow along, there are an enlarged pair being built over on RCSB that are ready for paint. You can get some nice three blade Ramoser props that should just set the model off nicely, not cheap but i think they are worth it. Yep leccy is the way to go with twins... you getting nervous Linds Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concorde Speedbird Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Yes, electric retracts are far superior for twins and the rest, no air leaks! A pair of nice purring four strokes will do for pulling power... CS (Joking!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsay Todd Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Danny, I'm not quite ready yet to fly whilst making 'rasberry' noises pretending it has propper motors yet, but that might change! Linds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 watching.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucksboy Posted September 19, 2013 Author Share Posted September 19, 2013 I made a start with the tailplane last night, I think that I'm going to be a regular listener to Jo Whilley on R2 as I build. The rudders on the original are operated by a central bell crank that in turn is operated by a servo in the main body. I intend to fit a mini servo in the tail to operated the rudders. I know that this in turn add weights to the tail but I also intend to look at making the whole tail section removeable, I'm worried about transport damage with a long body and a large tail. I hope to build a system that allows me to remove the tail and unplug the servo at the end of the day. The rear stabiliser is split horizontally and then glued together when both halves are built. The main fuselage sides are 1/2" thick balsa and the cutters have given me four 1/4" bits to join with lots of glue area. It would have been nice to give each piece a different pattern as all the joints now appear inthe same place. These 1/4" pieces are doubled up to give 1/2" sides. These in turn are then glued to a further 1/4" piece thats not shown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucksboy Posted September 20, 2013 Author Share Posted September 20, 2013 The simple box at the front of the fuselage is coming together, it was all framed together with set squares and then clamped. I need the tail area built so I can see if I can prgress with this idea of making the tail surfaces removeable. First thoughts are that it's awfully small down the back and there may not be space to hide all the necessay bits. The formers are all at 90 degrees as there isn't any side thrust to worry about. The bottom piece of wood is a 1/2' piece of balsa, this will ensure everything stays all square. I may be able to reinforce the front former and then open up a hole in it to shove the battery/batteries another 1-2" further forward. A nice weekend is forecast so I doubt if much building will be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucksboy Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 That all glued up nice and square so I moved to the back end. I'm perservering with having a removeable tail and have managed to fit the servo underneath the stabiliser to control the rudders. The servo then fits down into the very small fuselage. Also in the same area is the tail wheel bulkhead and still to pass through the same area is the elevator pushrod/snake. The tail wheel bulkhead is not glued in for the photo, I'm still working out whether it's all feasible. I've glued some ply to the outside of the longerons to add some strength back after I filed away some fom the inner faces to allow space for the servo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Mmmm. Its very tight back there isn't it. Could you use a smaller servo? You can get some quite high torque output micros these days. BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucksboy Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 BEB, I think I'll pop to the shop today and see what I can buy that's smaller. That isn't a full size servo by the way, it's similar to a SD200 in size. The snake for the elevator will have to go over the top of the tailwheel former and under the servo. The tailwheel snake will stop at the former. I'll play today to see what fits.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucksboy Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 I've been foolishly looking at one small problem without looking at as a whole. I hadn't considered the elevator connection. Its easy to unplug the rudder servo but I'd forgotten the elevator. There is precious little room and consequently no space to make and undo the connection to the elevator. So, I'll build it as BT suggests, no wonder he designs fantastic model planes and I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 There is a saying that gets bantered about from time to time over on the RCSB forum, in the Brian Taylor section, "deviate from a Taylor plan at your peril" He really is a very good designer Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Awgghh - it was worth a go though wasn't it? BT may be almost perfect - but "almost" isn't actually "totally" - we might have been on to something, ....... Ok, no we weren't.... back to "plan A". Yes, yes, OK, that's BT's "plan A"! BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Subscribed!!! More scale stuff.... love it. Watching with interest! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Stratton Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Hi Bucksboy, my two penny worth on your dilemma, depending on how much you've got to play with the c of g/weight distribution, could you put the elevator servo back there too and do what the large scale boys do and have a join in the fuselage so that the whole tail unit comes off? Love the Bf110, watching your build with great interest, may get to build the same kit myself one day! Edited By Glenn Stratton on 25/09/2013 08:53:38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucksboy Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 Thanks gents, I think I'll go with what the Master shows on his plan. I'll just have to be careful with it when moving it around. That was the only point of the exercise, to make it easier to transport. I'll hopefully make the rudders up this morning and post later, thats the plan anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucksboy Posted September 30, 2013 Author Share Posted September 30, 2013 Gents, I'm sorry but this build is going to go into storage until the New Year. Two of us have bought the TN Mustang and intend to build them straight away for the winter flying season. This build will entertain me through the early part of 2014. Thanks for your comments but one man can only build so many models in a tiny workshop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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