ben goodfellow 1 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 i would realy like tobuild a big spitfire , because im having trouble finding a suitable plan i was ging to get a TN 103 huricane plan and do that instead, before i do though could any one point me in the direction of a good 100-110 inch spit plan .. thanks fly low Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Have a look at what Belair have to offer Ben, the Americans have some good large plans at very good prices Arizona models etc, you can find them with google John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben goodfellow 1 Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 ok john thanks .ill have a look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsay Todd Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Belair do the Nick Ziroli range which include a 100" 1/4 scale Spitfire. Of course there is always the Mick Reeves kit version. I have the old wood kit nearing completion at the moment for next year. Linds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 OOh nice what's up front Linds? John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsay Todd Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 MVVS 80 gone in, total weight looking like 38-39lb just in the final stages of radio installation and detailing at the moment so she should be well sorted for next year. To be honest its been a bit of a stop start project over the last couple of years as I picked up the model virtually built but then set about doing a complete strip down, rebuilt a few areas and made quite a lot of changes and then a complete re cover and paint job. This resulted in dropping the weight by a couple of pound, made the construction a little more robust and generally easier to maintain. I have a pet hate of excess epoxy and carrying dead weight in the wrong areas so the tail was a total rebuild and the nose and bulkhead also totally re worked. Linds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Ben - hopefully you're aware that a 1/4 scale Spitfire (@ 110 inches) will be pushing the 20kg weight limit where it becomes a small aircraft and will need CAA exemption, so I'd recommend considering discussing any large model plans with the LMA before starting construction. Edited By Martin Harris on 29/11/2014 23:49:03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsay Todd Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 It's a good point you make Martin, although at this size it can be built within the 20kg limit it is worthwhile and sensible practice to seek advice and indeed assistance from the LMA for such projects if you have not undertaken such a project before that brings you close to the or potentially over the CAA limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Yep I've reworked a few myself can be more work than starting from scratch, looks beautiful John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben goodfellow 1 Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 one of the reasons i wanted to go for this size was keeping the weight to(quite) a bit under 20kg ive built quite a lot of normal plans and wanted something to get my teeth into ,and in all the time ive flown ive never had a spitfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 check out mick reeves 1/4 scale spit. The instructions are pants (if you even get any) but the model is spot on for looks and should be about 30-35lbs Or, go a bit smaller and build the 80 inch DB spit. They are a handy size to fit in the car and fly well. I would love a 1/4 spit, but having seen a friend buy one and then realise just how massive it is I think I will have to wait a bit longer for more space! Edited By Jon Harper on 30/11/2014 10:07:57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben goodfellow 1 Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 am wondering if any one on here has had a TN plan enlarged before.. i could ask about getting the spitfire 72" version blown up to 100and odd inch but i cant seem to get to the contact page when i click on it nothing happens.. fly low Edited By ben goodfellow 1 on 02/12/2014 21:18:54 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reg shaw Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Why would you blow up a 72" plan to over 100+ inch then have to redesign a suitable structure into it when there are a few good designs out there already. The TN plan you speak of would be a heavy model simply blown up as the sheet sizes would be too thick, the former and rib spacings probably too far apart. The Mick Reeves offering is a great design, easy to build with a bit of thought, flies superbly though you wouldn't want it any lighter than about 35lb as it wouldn't look right getting blown about in anything but flat calm weather. The Brian Taylor 83" plan would blow straight up without modification though as the structure is of the 'more bits but less material' variety. Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben goodfellow 1 Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 it ws just a thought... not being a war bird man am not really up on all the different designs , i will certanly have a look into the MR version ..seems a few post on this thread mention it so it must be good.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monz Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 This Spitfire is very good **LINK** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I have to disagree with monz. I had the misfortune of helping someone build of those and it was the most awful model I have ever built. It was heavy, had no meaningful instructions, pieces didn't fit and it was in general utterly awful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR 71 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I am building a big Spitfire i took the free TN plan from RCME and blew it up to 1/4 scale or there abouts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Smalley Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I am with Ian on this why blow up a smaller scale plan, there are lots of greAt designs out there purposely for 1/4 scale, whilst micks kits can require a bit of thought and fetteling they do all fly well, from an experience standpoint I suggest you listen to our Ian! Ps if you do fancy a slightly smaller spitfire I can really recommend the current db spitfire as a good kit a great flier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR 71 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 The MR kits seem expencive for what they are and with all the work you have to do on them to get them right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Smalley Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 sorry have to disagree a tad, everything fiberglass fus, including retracts and proskin covering for 1.6K for a 1/4 scale model... not bad in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben goodfellow 1 Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 I appriciate all the comments , the only thing I'd say is I want to build one though don't want a composite version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR 71 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Wait until you get on a pension £1.600 IS A HELL OF A LOT OF MONEY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hopkin Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 If you really want to blow up a smaller plan to the size you want, I would heavily recommend that you didnt simply photo enlarge it as the lines will grow in thickness making accuracy of very difficult, the thicknesses of wood will be enlarged to sizes you probably cant buy (meaning almost every chunk of wood would have to be correctly thicknessed down to the enlarged size. The construction methods may not support the weight of the enlarged airframe (ie former spacing will be increased reducing the ratio of Wood:Air in the fuselage etc.... If you really want to go that way, I would suggest you would be far better redrawing the main sections onto heavy duty plasticsed tracing paper and building from that, so you can add formers/ribs to keep the strength and keep the profile drawn lines to a sane thickness But like people say, why no just buy a Mick Reeves plan and the ply formers for £47 plus P&P? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben goodfellow 1 Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 i wasnt going to blow it up myself TN offers this service so i would presume things like the line thickness would be taken in to account and reduced . ofcourse there is still the problem of rejiging material postion and thicknesses...reading the comments on here ive decided its either MR spit or TN hurricane....fly low Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin - RAM Models Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 No Tony's rescaling service doesn't modify the construction/structure of the plan. Read this page and it tells you more. http://www.tonynijhuisdesigns.co.uk/plan-scaling.htm Edited By Martin - RAM Models on 03/12/2014 18:42:08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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