David Ashby - Moderator Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Just been listening to the All Things that Fly podcast and they're talking about a methane shortage affecting model fuel prices in the U.S. The cause is the closure of a large factory in China so as to help the air quality running up to the Olympics. Whilst not wanting to start panic buying I wondered if anyone heard anything about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sharp Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Well I've got lots of fuel in stock so I'm not worried. Mind you some of it is 15 years old, or more!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Holmes Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Hi David, I heard a similar story yesterday from the Model Technics stand at the Woodspring show, where incidentlly 1 gallon of contest 10 was £12 but not for long. They confirmed the story in China with the Olympics. The other problem being the USA, as they have directed all their Nitro from drag racing and model fuel into fertilizer as they have just banned their present ingredients.Get your fuel while you can as I think were in for some hard times. Hopefully the shortage of Nitro will be relieved after the Olympics if they reopen the factory but I am very doubtful the price will ever come down again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Green Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Hello, A month ago i bought a gallon of Formula Irvine 5% @ £13.50, today it cost me £16.00!!!! Maybe electric is the way forward??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Holmes Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Anthony,You could be right, but don't forgot the over paid Bureaucrats are increasing our energy cost by 40% this coming winter. How does electric compare to ic?Dan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Green Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I couldn't comment on electric as i only fly i.c, however i would like to start flying electric, but cant afford anymore models, batteries and chargers!!! However i was speaking to someone in my local shop and he just pointed out that if your using 5% then only 5% is methane anyway so the increase will be on the 5%. But everything is going up...............but that is a different thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Skilbeck Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I thnk people mean Nitromethane, methane is what British Gas send to your house for your heating system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sharp Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 On BBC rollon news today there was a report saying that the worlds biggest producer of planinum was closing down one of its smelters for technical reasons and it will be next year before production resumes at this particular plant. The report seemed to indicate that the loss of production at this plant would be considerable. This could affect the price of glow plugs, so even more reason to go electric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Dont forget that the "government" always tells us not to panic buy .But I might just get a few gallons (sorry Litres) of fuel in Plus 2 dozen(sorry 24 in metric or whatever) glows. I wonder if there might be a lithium shortage soon Then what ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Whiting Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Answer..............we will all have to take up GLIDING, in the past I have enjoyed many an hour at Ivinghoe Beacon, Bucks.......only 15mins from home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former Member Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 [This posting has been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sharp Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 And Gordon Brown says that we must not waste food, but if I eat it all I will become overweight and then they wont let me have medical care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I give up .Leave everything to the "experts" And we all know the definition of one of them! Now you are beginning to realise why i'm grumpy. I've never wasted food _only a few scraps of balsa wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sharp Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 And this coming winter we wont be able to afford to heat the modeling shed, nor pay for the petrol to get to the flying field. So the cost of nitro methane will appear to have little significance in the greater plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 PS There'll be plenty of methane around (to be exploited"but not by us lot)) when the permafrost is no more in Siberia There is plenty now being released under the once thickly frozen lakes .there.Methanol has nothing to do with methane anyway !Methanol (wood alcohol) has been obtained recently by the controlled air oxidation of natural gas.Originally it was produced by the catalytic reduction of carbon monoxide in the prescence of chromium and zinc oxides In other words by the destructive distillation of wood . Hence the name wood alcohol.2 H2 + CO with Cr2 O3 + ZnO at 350-400 degrees Centigrade gives CH3OH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sharp Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 wood alcohol, sounds good i'll have a pint please landlord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Owen Hailey Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Hi all.If its only Wood alchol cant we distil our own, this sounds a bit like Moon Shine. I am sore their would be a law against it but what gose on it the back of those dingy dark model sheds is another thing ha ha.hik hik Owen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 It's NOT to be consumed Very dodgy (ask Timbo! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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