CAA registration consulation

[MattyB]

Posted by Steve J on 27/04/2019 07:53:22:

Posted by MattyB on 26/04/2019 23:34:55:

There is also a typo on that infographic that says registration is valid for 3 years, but elsewhere in the doc it states 1 with a possibility of moving to 3 once they know how many people are registering and whether they can “cover their costs”.

Operator registration (aka 'the drone tax', ANO 94C/D) is for one year. Competency (ANO 94E/F) is three years.

Steve

Ok, got it now. They could have certainly made that graphic a lot clearer though; as it stands I suspect most recreational flyers will assume they needed to follow one path or the other, when in fact we will need to complete both.

Edited By MattyB on 27/04/2019 09:21:10

[Peter Miller]

Posted by GrahamWh on 26/04/2019 22:15:55:

Done.

But does this government listen to anyone but itself?

Haven't you realised! This government doesn't even listen to its self.They are all too busy shouting and yelling at each other to listen to anything

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[trebor]

I've only been flying for about 3 years and now having a re think. I needed something to keep my brain occupied when I had to stop working, maybe I should have got into boats I already got the fishing rods and I used to get fed up with the foreigners taking all the carp out of the lakes for the table due to lack of bailiffs and now my flying hobby is going down the same route.

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[trebor]

One or two old boys at my club have gone over to boats when the hand eye coordination starts to go.

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[kevin b]

If anyone is interested I have a digital collection of about 1000 model boats, apart from the aeroplanes.

Free to anyone who wants to build a boat.

[Pete Collins]

In response to Peter Millers comment re Radio Licences. The government were quite happy to keep collecting the fifteen bob from each user while it didn't involve doing anything but when the CB craze happened (Sound familiar) Legitimate users started to complain that they pay a license fee and would expect the government to police the waveband and do something about illegal users who were interfering with our control systems and causing a potential danger etc. The initial government response was to scrap the licence fee. Only later did they introduce new wavebands and legalise CB - this proved to be the real answer since legalising CB pretty much killed the craze over night! Such is the perversity of the human animal.

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[Brian Cooper]

Costs: The CAA has based its estimate for costs (£16.50) on the basis that over 170,000 people will register. . . These figures are based on information passed to them regarding the sales of "toy" drones over the last three or four years. . They estimate that about 2 million toy drones have been sold, and the CAA thinks (expects) that all these people will be cheerfully rushing to register their toys . . . . no chance.

The CAA is going to be disappointed when only about 30,000 BMFA members sign up. . Then, of course, the costs for the following years will be significantly multiplied to cover the shortfall.. . How many people will be keen to pay, let's say, £85 per year just to stay registered?

Naturally, nobody in the higher echelons of the CAA will ever think about scrapping it.

Enjoy your flying this summer, lads. It won't be the same next year.

B.C.

[Peter Miller]

Well, we can always go back to control line!

And what abut free flight. Mind you, I am bit too old to chase a free flight model across the fields these days.

[Former Member]

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[trebor]

They have already started to get round the problem with sub 250 gram quads fitted with hd cameras. Some have gps even.

[Graham R]

I guess that a large percentage of BMFA members are pensioners pursuing our hobby in retirement. This is just another tax foisted on upon us by the establishment.What could they do if we all refused to pay?

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[Peter Miller]

I dowonder about the online competance examination.

If this is compiled by a drone expert we aeromodellers will not know most of the answers. as they will not be applicable to aircraft. I suspect that some questions will be totally irrelevant anyway.

Perhaps, when the exam is published someone will put a crib sheet up here.

[Peter Miller]

Posted by Graham R on 27/04/2019 10:20:42:

I guess that a large percentage of BMFA members are pensioners pursuing our hobby in retirement. This is just another tax foisted on upon us by the establishment.What could they do if we all refused to pay?

And as a pensioner I see that the house of Lords wants to take away our free TV licences and Winter Fuel Payments based on the fact that younger people are far worse off that we are.

I will, with great difficulty, refrain from the many comments and thoughts that crowd my mind at those idiotic ideas. But then what can one expect from a shower like that lot.

[Former Member]

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[Peter Miller]

I can see a few there that will have little application to R/C models

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[trebor]

Looking at that test list I am bored to tears already. Where is the slit my wrist smily when you need one ?

[Martin Dance 1]

I have completed the document and posted on our clubs Google group a request for members to complete the document making their opposition clear.

I suppose we could super glue ourselves to the CAA HQ which is near Gatwick airport and film us from a drone hovering over the airport. " src="http://www.rcmf.co.uk/4um/Smileys/live/shocked.gif" title="Shocked" />

[PETER BRUCE - Eastchurch Gap]

I think that model flyers are pure annoyance to the CAA and they would just like to see us gone so the CAA and Civil Servants dealing with the illegal idiots can then get back to sipping tea in the morning. What is the point of this knee jerk registration fee when this very small proportion of idiots who cause all the problems operate outside the law and have nothing to link them with any responsible flying clubs or flying bodies like the BMFA, LMA. BHPA BMA and many other reputable organisations.

Just like the CB controversy and many other government knee jerk responses we have had in the past and I find it truly amazing that they can even make up their minds on anything taking BREXIT (had to throw that in) as an almost 3 year mess.

If the ones they really want to register don’t - why should we.

Just filling coffers - and every few years the fee increases and they still won’t catch the renegade few. How legislators like to kill off and hinder many types of interest. This should have been done through our governing bodies.

I know I’m going to get some stick but I think “go rogue or give up” - the latter being just what the CAA want.

PS  Interestingly by going onto the site and giving your details your already creating their database for them and that’s a great intrusion of your person. Just saying🤔 

 

 

Edited By PETER BRUCE - Eastchurch Gap on 27/04/2019 11:35:56