Peter Miller Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 The Stampe SR.7 was a Belgian trainer designed in the 50s, However only two were ever built but strangely enough it has always been a popular subject for modellers. The aircraft is very similar to a De Havilland Chipmunk but with a much simpler fuselage shape. My model is based on some decidedly inaccurate 3 views and the very few photos available on the net. There for it is "stand way off scale" These have been corrected as after as possible with the air of the photos. Construction is the basic box with one or two different areas This shows the basic box with the rest of the formers. Note F-1 is different to get the right shape for the nose. Here F-1 is being glued into place. It needs big clamps to hold the sides to it as they are springy with the 1/32" ply doublers. This is the basic box with all the formers and the battery platform in place. This is a close up of the battery platform. The cooling holes will also be used to pass the battery straps through. The underside of the battery platform. I shaped the lower edges of F-2 to match the curved in sides. The strip balsa supports were meant to be under the platform however a fillet of glue and the supports on the top did the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Hi Peter, Glad I'm the first to visit your Belgian trainer build and thread... Subscribing right away. Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 Hi Chris, Welcome aboard. Now back to the workshop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuphedd Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 It would be good to publish a photo of the real thing , so That I may get all enthusiastic ??!! cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 ... your wishes are commands, Stuphedd. The 'Belgian' one > and the 'French' one > In fact, Stampe / Renard did build 3 airframes. One to be presented to the Belgian Air Force for trainer evaluation (the orange one) and one other (the Farman Monitor) assembled and equipped with a Renault engine by Farman in France to be presented to the Armée de l'Air with the same evaluation purpose. The third airframe has 'disappeared' and nobody knows if it is still 'alive'. So, future modellers could simply make their own 'deco scheme' simply pretending it's the 'third' one... Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 I wonder where they pinched the tail from ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 Thanks Chris. I do have a couple of other pictures of the one in a museum but they are copyright. A few more construction pictures. Rear deck stringers fitted. First stage of building the battery hatch Glue the sheet to the side strips and leave to dry Do the same with the short turtle deck pieces A wipe with water and apply some heat with a heat gun and the sheet is bent over And the inside view Same technique with the turtle deck pieces. Next I will start on the wings so it will be a few days before we get the next batch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuphedd Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Thanks chaps , as a Stampe is to a Tiggie may I state the obvious similarity to a Chippie? with the Stampe fin ! another great subject cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 Posted by cymaz on 31/10/2019 18:09:25: I wonder where they pinched the tail from ! Stampe also did the SV-4B which looks as if its mother was frightened by a Tiger Moth. The fin is very similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Pete, I built the Precendent Stampe a few years back....I was being daft! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 We had one in the club many years ago but it had the handicap of the owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert baker Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Posted by cymaz on 31/10/2019 19:29:43: Pete, I built the Precendent Stampe a few years back....I was being daft! Cymaz is going for the doorstep challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert baker Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Good looking plane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bisset Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Stampe also did the SV-4B which looks as if its mother was frightened by a Tiger Moth. The fin is very similar. Ah - now I always felt the Tiggie looked as if something had frightened it, the way that top wing hunches up ! A very characteristic tail on that machine - looks as though both fin & rudder and tailplane & elevator were lifted straight from the SV4. Interesting that the Stampe has never had any strakes, whereas the Tiger Moth did, so presumably that larger fin & rudder was more effective compared to the Tiger's quite delicate effort. (Has anyone found a model Tiger to be difficult to recover from a spin I wonder?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 It is interesting that the great Brian Lecomber favoured the Stampe SV-4 for aerobatics...before he went on the Dunlop Pitts. And anyone who watched Brian flying the Pitts will never forget it!! Edited By Peter Miller on 01/11/2019 08:30:15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 Finally got the Studio set up and a lot more pictures taken plus some from aprevious session. Nearly ready for covering. This is the air outlet under the cowl. I think it will need to be blanked off a abit to force air throught the battery bay. The basic cowl being built on the 1/16" cowl rear former The cowl all shaped up nicely. This shows the cowl ready to fit. Note the screws in F-1 and the keyhole slots in the cowl former Cowl is simply mounted by pushing on and then down.A catch underneat holds it down. The keyhole slot. This system works really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 How big is this one Peter? - and that Orange is very bright.. Following Martyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 The tail is pretty simple. The tail parts. The rudder is built up from a core of sheet and strips to represent the ribs. I was going to do the elevators the same way but found that there was no saving in weight and I am lazy!!! I always make my fin fairing blocks by glueing on sacrificial pieces of sheet and adding the blocks, then carving to shape. This guarantees a perfect match I just use spots of CA glue to hold the assembly together. The sacrificial pieces can be saved and used for another model or two. Edited By Peter Miller on 11/11/2019 13:41:04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 The wings follow my standard sequence The basic wing is built on the board, Note the U/C mount in the leading edge. This wing should not have the root rib fitted at this stage as will be explained. The left wing is built right up to ans including the top leading edge sheet. It is pinned down at all times. This ensures that there can be no warps. with the right wing still pinned down the left wing is joined on at the correct dihedral angle. Only then is the right root rib added. This makes sure of a perfect join. A club member what shall remain nameless rang me when building one of my designs. "You haven't put an angle template for the root rib!!!" He was most annoyed. As I explained. "When all else fails try reading the instructions" The complete wing ready for covering. I am using a central servo as the ribs out towards the tip get a little small to run a 1/2" paper tube through them The aileron bellcrank. The slots allow the aileron pushrods to be fitted after covering. The slot is for the torque rod undercarriage mounting The tips are made from soft 1/4" sheet. This is simpler and allows for the odd hangar rash and landing out in a ploughed field Now I am going to start covering the thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 Posted by Martyn K on 11/11/2019 13:38:57: How big is this one Peter? - and that Orange is very bright.. Following Martyn 52" span, about 450 sq in for a 3514 1070 motor and 3 cell battery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Hi Peter, You're indeed very close to covering now. Will it become the Belgian one? Looking forward to your decision. Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 Yes, the one in the museum. All orange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 ... ooh, the one in the Brussels Air Museum... Thank Goodness... and you of course, Peter. Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 There have been some corrections around the underside of the nose on the plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bisset Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Posted by Peter Miller on 01/11/2019 08:28:58: It is interesting that the great Brian Lecomber favoured the Stampe SV-4 for aerobatics...before he went on the Dunlop Pitts. And anyone who watched Brian flying the Pitts will never forget it!! Edited By Peter Miller on 01/11/2019 08:30:15 Indeed, Peter. Greatly missed, Mr Lecomber. I think he kept his Stampe even when he had moved his team on to ?Extra 300s? I think. The start of his book 'Talk Down; showed how much he liked the Stampe for gentle aerobatics. I still recall a lovely conversation I had with him when I was debating doing a Lycoming conversion. He had a 200HP Lycoming with VP prop and turbo for sale; he tried to persuade me to fit that to my Stampe - "Just think how much vertical you could get with that!" I felt it was the down vertical maneouvres that might be the limit, unless I could fit airbrakes(!) - the Stampe had quite a low flick roll limit speed. He was a terrific character and a superbly thoughtful, careful pilot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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