Glenn Ryan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 G10 is the best and worst stuff both at the same time haha. It makes great horns and hinges but geez it is terrible stuff to cut haha. Ā You're making excellent progress too. Keep up the great work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Somerville Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 So true. I used to cut these parts with my fretsaw but it ate blades for a passtime and I hate it when they break when cutting. Drilling and filing is tedious but preferable. Thanks for the encouragement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Somerville Posted January 29 Author Share Posted January 29 Ā Aileron ligned up and pinned in place while the mix of epoxy and micro balloons setsĀ the hinge arms in place. After all hardened off it was satisfying to find a friction free movement with snug fit close to the upper shroud. Ā Mt Robart mains finally arrived last week from the states having ordered them back in October. It was the lack of stock of tail retractsĀ that was holding things up so I deleted that from my order and four days later the mains arrived. Very nice BUT!!!Ā Ā So the length of the units and in particular the depth due to theĀ cylinder meant they just donāt fit without major surgery.Ā Ā Ā Here you cam see the modellers nightmare where I have had to cut out a huge amount of the ply shear web/dihedral/brace and also sand away 50% of the upper spar to leave very little strength at all. The carbon is sitting there awaiting resin andĀ a host of other parts I have fabricated to regain the integrity such that wonāt be afraid to loop the model at a decent speed. The saving grace is the wing joiner tube from where The real load originates. More pics soon which will show my solution and the size of the problem (The retracts) Ā Oh and for the tail retract I have recently acquired a full pack of bits for a Bates 1/5 Bearcat including Sierra retracts. As the tail retract is the same for the Hellcat I shall use that, since the Bearcat will be on a shelf for a couple ofĀ years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Somerville Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 Strength regained! The balsa cross piece in front of the upper spar, where I had removed so much of its thicknessĀ was to aid pressing in straight wetted out carbon towsĀ for reinforcement.Ā Ā The ply mount plate for the gear was not especially good quality and with bolts close to the edges I felt it worth laminating a layer of carbonĀ cloth on each side. I shanātĀ Ā glue theseĀ in until I have the wheels in hand as I need to check how it all sits with the wing under surface. Ā Although the lower spar is still cut through, the combination of the new spar and web along with the bridge of the retract when bolted in should be more than adequate.Ā Ā The webbing for the new diagonal is left over balsa carbon laminate I had made for the flap shrouds. Light and stiff. In fact all the additional parts came to about 35grms per side, which as its about on the C of G I wonāt be losing sleep over. Ā Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Somerville Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 Ā Nothing to see really except for the joy of a sharp blade in a razor plane. Been working on the outer flaps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan p Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Funny how producing shavings is very therapeuticĀ š Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Ryan Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 11 hours ago, alan p said: Funny how producing shavings is very therapeuticĀ š Ā It is one part of building that I thoroughly enjoy haha. Ā And on the other end of the spectrum I hate making and putting in shear webs. I don't know why but they just bug me hahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Somerville Posted February 8 Author Share Posted February 8 Using a card profileĀ of the flap section over the plan to check hidden horn placement and hinge action. The plan showed two possible versions and I have made a compromise between them with a closer to scale action during deployment. The brass tube gives additional support toĀ the Robart hinges where they extend 20mm from the rear spars. A little more localĀ balsa blocking will fully secureĀ them once they are all glued in place. Flap closed Flap at 60 degreesĀ Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Gates Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 23/01/2024 at 08:48, Nick Somerville said: So true. I used to cut these parts with my fretsaw but it ate blades for a passtime and I hate it when they break when cutting. Drilling and filing is tedious but preferable. Thanks for the encouragement. I used to have the same issue with a small coping saw until I found some fine toothed blades which had been properly hardened. Ā Love the plane - keep going! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Somerville Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 Wings starting Ā to fill up now. The aileron and outer flap servos are mounted on their sidesĀ in 3d printed mounts. And the inner flap servos vertically Ā in the same type ofĀ mount. Ā Pneumatic lines installed along with the first servo extension lead. Once the others are in place I can neaten up with some tie back clips. Ā Ā Hatches Ā will be cut after sheeting andĀ retained with a tongue on the forward side and a small magnet atĀ the rear. A small hole in the hatch will provide a pry point toĀ release it.Ā Ā Ā inner flap servo yet to have access sortedĀ as waiting on delivery of wheels. Once these are in hand I can see what space is like around the wells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Somerville Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 Some work on the fuselage while waiting delivery on my wheels. Tank fixings sorted, tail retract and pneumatic cylinder placed, elevator and rudder servos mounted. Also theĀ air valve and activating servoĀ mounted. The rudder servo will be usingĀ close loops for both the rudder andĀ tailwheel steering and so have made a sturdy bellcrank for these to take the pressure off the servo.Ā Ā Ā Ā Wheels arrived (5 1/2ā Robart tyres on scale Sierra hubs) so have been able to finalise the hatch position for the inner flap servo. I have made up 1/32 balsa wheel well liners with an extra 1/32 strip around the top edge. This will provide good support for the lower skin.Ā Ā Ā This leaves little left to do before I can skin the underside. Mostly checking all the rib and spar levels and checking how I am going to create access to the retracts for servicing.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Cutting it a bit fine for the UC legs ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Somerville Posted February 29 Author Share Posted February 29 Yes quite snug Paul,Ā Ā but cam be opened out once the skins are in place and the scale size openings areĀ established. Ā Ā Fuselage went back on the jig to glue in the stab. This has been glassed and cut back smooth already as harder to do later. Epoxy and micro balloon mix on the saddleĀ and two strips of carbon cloth on the inside to reinforce. Ā Ā Lower rear formers and stringers Ā now added. Carbon push rod for elevator in place. Note guide hole inĀ added cross member mid distance, to prevent any bowing when pushing for hard upĀ elevator. Ā Ā At the rear the tail retract was mounted prior to adding stringers to ensure I had the travel to completely hide the wheel. Outer snake guides in place for rudder and tailwheel closed loops.Ā Ā All the above proved very straightforward but the front end between the cowl and the Ā wing leading edge is a different story. Neither of the key 1/4ā ply lower formers, although correct to the plan, fit anywhere near to the correct position. I suspect I shall need to remake these parts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Somerville Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 Plastic coated 50lbs wire fishing traceĀ arrived this morning from an EBAY seller. 20m for Ā£3.40 including crimps and postage (not everything in modelling is expensive!). With the the pair of closed loop wires threaded through the guides and the ends carefully taped together so they donāt getĀ lost,Ā further progress was enabled.Ā All of the fuselage excludingĀ the small area forward of the wing has now been sheeted. I have a small hand held Hoover steam cleaner I bought for the household some years ago and itās ridiculously slow and totally unfit for purpose. However, for steaming sheets of balsa itās a very useful accessory.Ā The sheer bulk of itĀ is now very evident and I considered listening to some whale song in the workshop as fettled away. Ā Ā Final job of the day was to tape downĀ plastic sheet over the tail retract area and smear it with some wax polish. Next I wetted out some carbon cloth followed by a layer of lightweight glass cloth. Finally a layer of peel ply to soak up any excess resin and then all taped down with masking tape.Ā 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Somerville Posted March 6 Author Share Posted March 6 Ā A dry day at last so a chance to get outside to fine sand the fuselage. I am leaving the last rounding ofĀ the spine until later as it will inevitablyĀ Ā get hangar rashĀ if I do itĀ now. Ā IĀ had a seemingly huge pile off Ā 3ā&4ā 1/8 balsa of 36ā & 48ā lengths when I startedĀ the build. I always go over the plans and try to carefully calculate all my needs at the outset, but neverthelessĀ this time I had come to a conclusion thatĀ I had seriously over ordered. Ā Left to skin are the wing undersides and the belly pan. Ā On a fresh countĀ it seems there probably wonāt be a full sheet left when I finish after all.Ā Ā The carbon I had laid up over 24 hrs ago seems very slow to fully cure, so perhaps a misjudgment when weighing Ā out the proportions. Itās tricky when mixing such small quantities, even with digital micro scales. Hopefully it will harden eventually, just need to be patient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Somerville Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 After a second attempt the carbon laminated tailwheel cover did finally cure. Following a chat with a chap at Easy Composites I am going to start using a 50:50 mix of the fast and slow EL2 hardener in future, to achieve a better balance Ā ofĀ pot-life and curing time.Ā Another tip from Easy Composites is that they now sell structural thixotropic epoxy adhesive similar to the very expensive Hysol. 1/3 the price so I shall be trying some out for the various in cowl fixings and will report back.Ā Ā Ā Here the cover is in place. Ā Ā Here in the deployed position the brass mounting parts can be seem. These are epoxied to the cover and 3mm bolts fix them to the retract chassis in tapped holes. Lightweight but definitely long grass resistant. Ā Next I need to remove the wheel yoke and reshape it from its Corsair looking iformĀ to something resembling a F6F fork. Ā Ā 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Somerville Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 Some work on the four exhaust outlets. Also theĀ forward part of aĀ hot cowl airĀ escape passage that will exit at the lower underwing oil cooler flap.Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā The Minsi lll colour scheme I am planning has the exhaust outlets unpainted,Ā giving a nice contrast between the dark blue and shiny aluminium. Bit like my Sea Fury. Ā Ā Ā Ā The litho needed a good blow over with a blowtorch to soften it prior to working it into the recess.Ā 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Somerville Posted April 4 Author Share Posted April 4 More work on the cowl. To my horror when mounting the engine for the first time I found that my ācarefulā calculations where some way offĀ and the engine was sitting 12mm too high.Ā In my defence the plans for the engine box Ā area just donāt match some of the parts and to an extent I have had to wing it a bit in this crucial area. Additionally the prop hub was 3mm behind the cowl lip.Ā Ā In the event 12mm was so much better than a few mm as I was able to drill new holes and add new captive nuts behind the firewall avoiding the originals. A 3mm G10 plate was added and new apertures cut for the fuel line and carb.Ā Ā The four parts for the cowl edge to slip over andĀ place have been glued and screwed against F1, each with a pair ofĀ magnets imbedded. Their twin counterparts will be glued to the cowl. I am hopefully that the combined strength of 16 10mm neodymium magnets will hold the cowl in place without the need for any bolts. We shall see! Ā An additionalĀ benefit of the G10 is the spreading of load where the 40mm stand offās press against the firewall. You can see here the carb almost flush to the plate and the Venturi is well inside the fuselage. Once the engine is permanently mounted I shall seal around the sides of the Venturi with foam rubber so it can only draw cool air from inside the fuselage. Ā Engine temporarily mounted. Ā Ā I took a front view of the engine from the Saito website and printed it out actual size. This was cut out and traced onto light ply and fretted out for the baffle plate. The clearance is between 1-2mm around the engine but until it is glued to the cowl I wonāt be ableĀ to make any final adjustments. I should think 2mm will be ideal all around to keep the airflow close to the fins but not so close I start a fire. Ā Ā Here with the cowl in place. Note the lower cowl cheek still to be added and the air passage opened. Ā 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Somerville Posted April 8 Author Share Posted April 8 With weather awful I have spent the weekend spending far too much time fiddling with the cowl flaps. My intention had been to have them servo operated but in the end have accepted that the geometry for my planĀ was likely to result in some strain on the servo whenĀ either fullyĀ opening Ā or closingĀ the flaps, depending on the system employed. Ultimately I decided to have springs (bits of old fretsaw blades) keeping them open and a thin wire limiting the amount that they open. The pressure to close them is such that I am hoping that the prop wash and speed of the model at full chat should mostly close them, but at slower speeds the springs should hold them open.Ā Ā Ā Ā Hinges are reclaimed from a deceased model. Ā I also added dummy exhaust stubs at the four ports.Ā Ā 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Somerville Posted April 27 Author Share Posted April 27 Itās always a relief to finalise hingeing and actuating linkages for flying surfaces, especially when it is all hidden. I can only hope the flaps and ailerons work out as well as these tail surfaces have. I have installed a carbon pushrod to the elevator and closed loop to the rudder. Nice and smooth/slop free with everything lined up as it should. The elevator and rudderĀ trim tabs have been fabricated from G10 with carved chemiwood dummy actuators.Ā Ā The patchy grey areas are where I have primed inside the shrouds as they wonāt be easy to get to later. On previous models I painted the elevators and rudder separately and then fitted them. However for this model they had to be installed first.Ā Ā Ā Ā When shaping the forward fillet for the fin I found I had an unwanted hollow at the forward part and had to resort to a skim of lightweight filler to blend things in. Ā A final shaping of the rear spine and a good sand all over and theĀ fuselageĀ will just about be ready for glassing. I havenāt decided though whether to cut the rear windows before or afterĀ glassing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Somerville Posted May 4 Author Share Posted May 4 Finally buttoned up the lower skins on the wings.Ā Ā Ā A section of outer skins nearly ready for gluing with cut outs for aileron hinges, aileron servo and outer flap servo access.Ā Ā My once seemingly endless stash of 1/8 4ā sheeting has all but gone, with just enough left for the belly pan. Ā looking forward to adding wing tips and leading edges. Ā Ā With the wing halves pushed together onto the joiner tube this is the first trial fit in preparation for fitting the front locatingĀ dowels amd rear retaining bolts. So far looking ok with not to much work needed around the saddle. One the fixings have been set I can make up the inner flaps and then the final structural component, the belly pan. Also with the lower skins done I cam lay up the leg / wheel covers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ovenden Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Time to keep the garden beautiful and well-stocked with vegetables as well as build top-notchĀ models! Impressive work Nick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piers Bowlan Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Remarkable work Nick, so impressive. š Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Grant 1 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 I have enjoyed this thread seeing the great work. It's going to be an impressiveĀ model with the Saito Radial in it with the careful detailingĀ to ensure good cooling. I was pleased to see the reference to the G10 sheeting as I had not been able to find a source of 1.5mm glass fibre sheet for control horns in NZ. Seems this stuff is readily available from the likes of Ali express. Looks like fashioning shapes from it will be a trial though. Ā Keep up the good work and posting progress on the Hellcat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Somerville Posted May 6 Author Share Posted May 6 . Looks like fashioning shapes from it will be a trial though. Ā Hello Nigel, nice to following from New Zealand. As mentioned in my build notes, I have found for small parts multiple holes with a fine drill on a dremel works for me. I was visiting a clubmate the other day and he uses a fine blade in a small bandsaw works for himself. Carbon plate too up to 4mm thick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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