Peter Miller Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Just thought that I would start the ball rolling with this thread. There is a new album under the title LUCIOLE. This has consttruction pictures of the full size and model. More full size pictures will be posted in future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Mullins Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Great! The mag fell through the door a couple hours ago and I went straight to the plan. And wow, what I scortcher! I will deffinatley be building this. One thing though, that all flying elevator is a bit wierd and a bit disconcerting. Would it make alot of flying differance to just make a standard stabiliser/elevator? Edited By Ben Mullins on 22/10/2009 19:36:04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 I did wonder about the all flying tail but in fact the model handles just as if it had conventional surfaces, no fuss, no bother, not twitchy in the slightest. Just set it up with the CG and angles as describedf. THink of how it will stop th show at the field with the all flying tail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Mullins Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Yeh, good point there!, nothing like a good show off! Its good to know that model doesn't have any strange habits with that tail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Peter Nice plan -Tell me what sort of "Pilot" did you install ? Quite important with that huge cockpit . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 PS .I don't think a lot of folks have a "0.19" .Would my AP 15 be good enough .I've never used it & it has a very small muffler at the rear so I'm not sure about the noise factor either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 24, 2009 Author Share Posted October 24, 2009 I fitted an Assagai 1/5th scale pilot. Super detailed item. They are usually on Ebay, pricy but well worth the money considering that a latex blob unpainted will cost over £8. A good .15 will fly it. the AP 15 is NOT a good .15, it is gutless. I had one, briefly, in a 1/12 th scale flighter. After one flight I took it out and fitted a standard SC 15 which is a good engine. There are .19s on Ebay. I just bought a Thunder Tiger .17 which would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ashby - Moderator Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Lovely model that Peter, something different - like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Thanks Peter re the AP15 . I was sold it on re entering the hobby a few years back as I asked for a cheapo to fit into a small trainer to get "back into the swing" so to speak .Well the shop has gone bust needless to say & I would welcome any suggestions as to what to do with said engine . (legal that is ) I do have all your free plans going back about 4-5 years . G-UMPY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 The best suggestion that I can make is...Put it on Ebay and use the money towards a new SC 15, the one with the blue head. You want a design for around .09 engines. for the AP 15. That silencer strangled the power.Edited By Peter Miller on 25/10/2009 09:57:44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 The pilot I used is now on Ebay.You want the fifth scale oneEdited By Peter Miller on 25/10/2009 19:32:07Edited By Timbo - Moderator on 25/10/2009 19:35:21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter 'Ivanna Crashalot' Savage Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I supposedly won this issue on a facebook competition, haven't recieved it yet :s the model looks nice, what engine is it for? Edited By Peter Savage on 26/10/2009 18:45:26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ashby - Moderator Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 You did supposedly win (the Facebook item on Fri?) Peter but don't hold your breath with the post being what it is, allow a few extra days. Oh, .18 - .21 two stroke. Edited By David Ashby - RCME moderator on 26/10/2009 18:47:03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter 'Ivanna Crashalot' Savage Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 No problem! Can't complain if you didn't have to pay for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 What a brill plan ,Its nice to see an unusual subject getting modelled rather than another warbird .I wonder if my old PAW 19 diesel would drag it about ok.Looking at the build photos it would be almost within a modellers capability to have a crack at building1:1 scale(I might need a larger shed mind!!)Brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share Posted October 29, 2009 Your PAW 19 would be perfect for it. More than enough power. The full size is pretty simple in many ways although it does call for very precise work. Ultra close tolerances, etc. especially on the wing mounting and spars roots. Surprisingly for a home built there is some pretty complex machining on some components. We (Richard and I) were laughing at some of the dimensioning on the engine mount. Would you believe a measurement of 86.83 degrees. One hundredth of a degree!!! You would get that movement with the clearance of the bolts in the holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter 'Ivanna Crashalot' Savage Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I love the look of this model, although i don't need any more models at the moment! Got my Jodel and the lysander which alone is taking up 7 servos!!! So it was your mate, Peter that designed it? He may even get some orders from modellers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevo Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Cracking model Peter, do you think my OS 20 Fourstroke would be able to pull her around the sky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 No Peter. IT was designed by Michel Colomban, designer of the famous Cri-Cri. The full size that is. Richard Teveson is building the one that will be tested by the PFA (LAA) so the plans can be aproved for building in the UK. Kevo. I am pretty sue that you OS FS 20 would fly it in a scale like manner. I am pretty certain a good, .15 would fly it although aerobatics might not be possible. The full size prototype has flown some aerobatics unofficially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter 'Ivanna Crashalot' Savage Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Just been trying to find the PFA website, could only find an LAA one , looking for the next LAA meet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevo Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Thanks Peter , I'm a slow builder due to work (should'nt complain) but I will let you know how I get on. Thanks again.............Kev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 LAA is the new name for the PFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOETC (Rob) Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Hi Peter, I've just completed a 72" Sig Cub and decided on a whim to build a Luciole - my first plan built model. Was planning to start on the Tony Nijhuis Hurricane (I have all the hardware but was planning on doing my own cutting) but thought with the stringers the Luciole would be good practice. It's coming along very quickly - the plans are very easy to follow, thanks for your efforts Rgds, Rob - Sydney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 GReat pictures Glad you like her. Two comments. How do you have such a tidy workshop? I recently flew a Wankle engine in a model. Ye Gods! the Luciole is going to go like a rocket on that! Unless you scaled her up a lot! IT is also going to be very nose heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOETC (Rob) Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Good to hear from you Peter. I was given the Wankel by my father about 5 or 6 years ago and it has been waiting for a home ever since - runs like a dream. Probably not appropriate but I wanted to build the Luciole and I don't have anything else. It weighs pretty much the same as an old OS19 I have (no longer runs) so I thoght I would get away with it - might go without cowling or spinner just to show it off and save a bit of weight there. My flying instructor always used to say "you don't have to put the throttle to the wall". This is my first dabble in forums - all new to me. Is it appropriate to keep posting build photos here or should I start a new topic? Rgds, Rob BTW that's my back porch, not the workshop. You wouldn't want to see that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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