Steve Jones 2 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Latest pics of the build, then engine, silencer and cowl... I knew I should have taken up sculpture.. nightmare.... Some hefty carving to the fus side and some extension of the side cheeks Still getting there Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL PETTIT Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 That is a sweet job Steve. The build bug is comming around along with the chill in the air, thinking of going nitro on a Panther. All I have left for engines is an OS 46 (2) stroke. Will look around for a small (4) stroke like yours, what size is yours? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Jones 2 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Thanks Bill for the comments. Mine is an ASP 52, think Andy N used similar and power is good. Rich E has an old OS 40 in his which is a bit marginal if the engine is not fully on song. With mine the balance is looking a challenge, the battery could be in the tail at this rate so if I was considering maybe a 48 4 stroke might be ok If following the 2 stroke route as we all commented before a 25 seems not enough, a 36 maybe too much so my 32 setup appears to be close. With the design character of the model and those classic lines it has to be a 4 stroke in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Jones 2 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Andy, Pic of the hatch securing method - 6mm magnets in each corner, neat and tidy and a reassuring 'snap' when hatch closed - make sure they are right way round !! Also blade factory in full swing !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Harris Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 Looooking good Steve, you will have it finished by the weekend!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Nash Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Yes very nice Steve, To get the hang-angle correct, due to the weight of the 52, I moved the mast gearbox forward. This will change the CofG position (ie the CofG is relative to the blades spindle) and so be aware of this. The hang angle is now the only way to get an idea she is going to fly correctly, and a nose heavy model is better to fly than a tail heavy one. Moving the gearbox also allowed me to put the Rx battery under the two MG995 servos, rather than in the tail. Hope this helps. Regards Andy Edited By Andy Nash on 18/09/2013 22:05:51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Can some one point me to the point in this thread where the head angles are noted/discussed. This is so I can sort out my servos and linkages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Harris Posted September 19, 2013 Author Share Posted September 19, 2013 Carl, Set your rearward tilt at 5 degrees using your tailplane as the horizontal datum line, you will be close at this angle. Also add about a degree of left rotor tilt (looking from behind). You will have to trim to suit as, not every Panther will be the same. Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Jones 2 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 So after our brill auto gyro fly in where I tried to rekit my Panther in the outfield, . Mast broken in 2 places, crushed cowl, double up undercarriage..... Some hours later..... we are back in the game !! can you see the joins ???? All I have got to do now is sort the bloke on the sticks !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Jones 2 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 That over its back to the second Panther and the canopy Saga....... Refusing to be beaten I made another balsa plug, not painted this time to avoid the paint sticking to the inside with the heat... The first attempt was again a disaster .... So plan B seemed to be to try and give the 2 litre pop bottle little shrinking to do by adding to the plug....I'm please with the second effort So it seems to work for me, make the plug oversize and fill the pop bottle before applying the heat gun......here is the plug and you can see the additions which help second time around. Edited By Steve Jones 2 on 30/09/2013 22:30:33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Harris Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 Steve, Crumbs, you don't hang around....you do realise you have the gyro bug! Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Jones 2 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Yep ... Could be catching .... And there is no cure !! One final sand and Panther 2 is ready to cover - Ferrari red and black... so, onto the two RPGs... Will start a thread to document.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koen Smits Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Hi All, in the **LINK** is a small video from my Panther, its not flown by myself. Koen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Jones 2 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Fantastic Koen, congratulations and well done to your pilot. Model looks and flys great steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Jones 2 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Latest update on Panther 2, covering well on the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Harris Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 Koen, Congratulations on a very successful flight, has the pilot had autogyro experience? Steve, Nice work, you have got too much time on your hands!! Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koen Smits Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Rich, These where his first flights with an autogyro after making a few adjusting hops the day before. Now i know the panther flyes, maybe on the next occaision i will try by myself koen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Nash Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Posted by Koen Smits on 10/10/2013 21:26:08: Hi All, in the **LINK** is a small video from my Panther, its not flown by myself. Koen. Well done Koen Perhaps get a trainer lead and two Tx units, this has helped many new to autogyro flying. Steve you gave me a shock. Thought you had broken the Panther! Then realised you had it in parts to cover. lol Regards Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Franks Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Hi, I have just purchased the plan pack for this great machine. Can anyone recommend engine size (ic) required or what electric set up is best. thanks Richard (Kent) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Nash Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Hi Richard Now there are 3 Richards, this could get confusing! Welcome to the thread Richard. Pictures and progress reports please. We like pictures! Engine. I have used a ASP 0.36 2-stroke and she was a bit over powered. 0.32 looks to be better. I now have a ASP 0.52 4-stroke (inverted) and this is a bit over powered again. I do like the sound. OS 48 might be better but I don't have one to try. I know from Rich E an old OS 40 4-stroke is not ideal. Not enough power. Sorry can't help you with electric setups. Regards Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Harris Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 Hi Richard, Welcome to the dark side and of course the forum. If you have time it is well worth having a browse through this thread, there have been some excellent builds and ideas from other forum members. Regarding the electric set up, there is one recommended HERE. If you base it on this there are different cheaper set ups than can be used, 4 s is the way to go. As a great moderator once said " the only question that is stupid is the one that is never asked" On another note we do seem to have plenty of old and new gyronuts dotted around the UK and from time to time we try and have a 'get together' up and down the country. It is never anything too serious but it gives us chance to meet like minded fools, have a laugh, swop ideas and help others who feel the need for assistance (we have all had it by the way). We also have amongst us IC and electric Panther pilots on both mode 1 and mode 2 who are always happy to help. Rich (H) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roc5047 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Hi, On my Panther,I am going to go a bone engine os 40 fsr,wich propeller is in accordance?(11/5) ? What is that on Panther,it is necessary to put of driving "anticouple",how much of degres has right? Thank you for you amswers Gaston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bennett Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I've been away for a few months and have just got back into Panther building. Today I basically finished, matched, and balanced four blades -- all without the final covering at the moment. But I have a couple of questions:- 1. Is there an optimum weight per blade? Mine, uncovered are 41 grammes each. 2. Mine seem a bit twisty at the moment. I know that Solarfilm covering will stiffen them up a bit, but has anyone used 25g/m2, or even 50g/m2 fibreglass to give some extra stiffness and protection? 3. The plan says to "feather" the edges of the top and bottom root reinforcement plates, so I did. Problem now is that the spot where the 0.4mm packer is supposed to be is partly feathered, not all flat. It seems to me this shouldn't be a problem, for the packer in fact will only contact the triangular head plate along its edge closest to the bolt anyway. Am I right in thinking that, or do I need to un-chamfer (i.e. build up) one side of the bottom reinforcement plate to make a flat base for the packer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Harris Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 Gaston, 11 x 5 is about right for an OS 40 FSR, I am unsure what you mean by anticouple? Allan, Blades weighing 41 grammes should be fine, the heavier they are the harder they are to get to spin up but the flatter the cone of the rotor disc is which reduces roll trim. The only reason why I feather the edges of the blade root plates is simply to help with the covering of them, as long as you can get some kind of shim in it will be fine, infact, if the blades are built exact to the aerofoil shown on the plan they will not need any shim to spin up. The shim was only added as a bit of a safe guard. Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Posted by Richard Harris on 24/10/2013 22:47:49: Gaston, I am unsure what you mean by anticouple? I think Gaston was asking about sidethrust to counteract torque reaction? Trevor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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