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Eric.

I built this model many years ago and it flew like a pattern ship the moment it left the ground without any stick input.

It had a Taipan 15 in it and was a handfull.Have a look under the thread    The worst model you ever had.

Maybe i did'nt understand c/g location back in those early days.

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Jim

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I've got one!

It was built in the early 80's by my Dad - he had an aversion to ailerons. Too complicated to build, too many stick movements when flying so most of his models were rudder/elevator. The Spatman was a bit like a high wing trainer to fly, but a bit more sprightly and with a very exciting roll-rate considering it had no ailerons.

I only stopped flying it because it had become old, oil-soaked and a bit tatty. It had an old but reliable Enya 15 fitted and was metallic blue fus. with white wings.

Jim's model above must've had something wrong beacsue we had literally hours and hours of good flying with our model. Happy days!

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Eric

Mine didn't have ailerons and they weren't shown on the plan. Maybe Bowmans did an update of the kit because let's face it you don't see many rudder/elevator models around do you?

Sorry for any confsion, but it did fly well without ailerons and I would expect it would only be better with them.

Ironically, I did convert another Bowmans kit, the Mini Skyman from rudder/elevator to ailerons!

Jim, hello, yes it's me. Small world on the internet isn't it!

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I had one many moons ago and if i remeber it was quite heavy and flew quite fast(was very hard to follow the build light ,trim for free flight adage)but that may have had someting to do with the size of the radio gear I had at that time.Can't remember the engine I used but I think it was an old os I had from control line days .I had to hand launch and removed the uc for a belly landing.     
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I Had the Galaxy equivalent-the Quicky, in the early '80s, a few of thier kits were shared, the Skyman series were the Escort fron Galaxy + others.

It had foam wings with no spars/LE/TE, just the veneer going to sharp edges front & rear & a boxy fuselage with the front underside made from ply. I wiped the alloy U/C out on the first flight & handlaunched it from then on-my field at the time (Enville Common near Bobbington Airfield, W. Mids) was too rough for a model of that size to take off/land on wheels & it flew better without.

I built mine in an evening, powered it with an OS 10FSR & it became my very favourite model for years-virtually indestructable (i only ever broke the tailplane-easily replaced)& very aerobatic on it's 3 channels-it had plenty of dihedral, making the roll rate quite spectacular on rudder ony-I remember another flyer flatly refusing to believe it was rudder/elevator contol until I landed & showed him. It's party piece wes clinbing to a speck, shutting the throttle & slamming full rudder/up elevator & spinning rapidly downwards-it would start flying immediately the sticks centralised & throttle opened, so I could let it get very low before recovering. It meant a lot to me in those early days!!

I still have the plan & it is one of my 'must do' builds (rebuilds?) for the future.

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  • 12 years later...

Eric,

12 years later and ............................

Spatman was my first RC model. Powered it with a DC Saber 1.5cc (just). Tried to teach myself to fly so thought it best to have quiet some throws on the elevator and rudder - so it didn'go too far. Hand launched and grabbed the sticks - only to wallow in the air to the ground and quickly. Next time I decided I need to let it "fly" before controlling it. It got away fast so I grabbed the sticks and vertical it went, looped and then headed to the ground to bury itself in the muddy autumn field. I kept long time until my wife burned it with all my other planes when I divorced - oh well!

If you should read this and you still have the plans I would love a copy. Please send me a private message.

We can figure it out.

Best regards

 

Bob Benson

 

 

 

Edited By David Ashby - Moderator on 30/07/2020 09:56:44

Edited By David Ashby - Moderator on 30/07/2020 09:57:25

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  • 3 months later...

Hi, just stumbled across this whilst looking for any info about the Spatman as I intend to rebuild my 35+ year old version, the fuselage having finally fallen apart with oil ingress - the wings are still usable. For those not familiar, this 40" span 3 channel model had excessive dihedral, a sharp leading edge before a chunky airfoil, and a very short moment arm. This gave it outstanding roll characteristics with just a tiny rudder - quite a handful but, as someone has mentioned above, could be brought out of a spin instantly. Powered by an old OS Max15, mine would cartwheel around the sky in a manner that can only be described as 'completely bonkers'. Out of all of the models that I have owned over the years, this one takes, by far, the 'most fun per £' trophy.

I had finished my original model rather over heavy with heavyweight tissue/dope, but it still flew amazingly well. As I still have the original plans that came with the kit, I aim to recreate it, only lighter, and get the old OS engine going again - but am thinking about a lighter, electric version with built up wings, rather than foam veneer.

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Posted by David Lane 2 on 12/11/2020 14:37:55
:...As I still have the original plans that came with the kit...

Hi David, Is there any chance you could get your plan uploaded to Outerzone, AeroFred or similar? It would be a real shame to lose this piece of our R/C flying history.

Uploading plans to Outerzone

Uploading Plans to AeroFred

Thanks, Robin

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Posted by David Lane 2 on 12/11/2020 17:05:15:

I did have a look on both of those to see if the plan was to be found, but no. At the weekend I will dig it out (I think that I still have it) - but I have no idea as to get it scanned - any thoughts?

David, I would guess that if you can scan the plan as a number of A4 images, that they could be stitched together with software that Outerzone/AeroFred would have. If you don't have a means of scanning at all, then your local library may have a photocopier that could do this.

Cheers, Robin

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