Colin Leighfield Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 I think those pre-war USAAC colours are brilliant, suit your Wifurskin very well.It looks beautiful patMc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff2wings Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 Well I was just trying to keep to the spirit of the original model by having a naff name ! Have to agree with Colin it looks great in those colours,may have to do something similar myself.So how did it fly ?? think these old designs still have some mileage in them with a bit of updating . So a bit more on the wing construction ,I will join the wing halves together before sheeting the lower surfaces and mock up some shorter wing struts before I finish the wing seat, just in case I change my mind at the last minute as I tend to do ! I have set the hinge line back from the rear spar and made the ailerons five bays wide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josip Vrandecic -Mes Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Hello Jeff , very precise and serious piece of work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatMc Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Thanks for the kind words. Colin & Jeff. Jeff, I sold the Wifurskin about 30 years ago but as I remember it flew very well. Power was adequate for most aeros, not sparkling but in keeping with what it was pretending to be, unlike a lot of todays semi-scale prop models with jet like performances. One thing I do recall was that I often wished afterwards that I'd built it with reduced dihedral. Although ailerons are shown on your scan of the plan I think the original actualy only had them drawn on the wings & the original was flown with E/R/M only. The roll rate of mine was quite stodgy & about the same with either aileron or rudder only application, a lot better with both but never axial. (Of course that may have been due to limited ability ) Edited By PatMc on 17/02/2014 19:25:53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Day Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Looks great Jeff. I've never built an aileroned (!) wing before and only know the general principles of control surface hinging. How will your hinging work? It looks as though the leading edge of the aileron and the inner trailing edge of the wing both have flat faces. Are you planning to chamfer one or both of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff2wings Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 Thanks Josip ,it only looks good because of my poor photographic skills ! PatMc ,I think there is a overwhelming trend to over power models ( that don't need it ) these days rather than use the wing to fly, and use the engine to drag them out of trouble due to poor decision making still think the Wiffelskin,Waffel......what ever would make a good w/end sport flyer. So Nigel,will try to show the aileron mods better ! you can see that I've cut the hinge line 1/2 back from the rear spar and added the 1/4 facing this shows how it's angled back view from the underside of the cap strips added on the top side This is what you have after cutting the aileron away from the wing and the finished job end ribs from scrap , the ribs are cut back at an angle allowing for the 1/4 sheet and the aileron facing underside showing top capping (lower to be added) I will be using solartex top hinging ,this method of making ailerons will be very familiar to those who have built a model from the Flair scout range ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Day Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Many thanks Jeff. So if I understand your photos and explanation correctly, the leading edge of the aileron slopes downward and away from the lower trailing edge of the wing? That means there's some play for the aileron to move downwards - and much(?) less than for it to move upwards (lots of play!). The hinging is at the top, purely through the covering - albeit two bits, top and folded underneath? The difference in down and up movement is controlled through settings/adjustment on the transmitter? Thanks in advance, Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff2wings Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 So, after almost 5 months I have finaly found the time to do a bit more with this over the last few days . The more observant amongst you will have noticed that I have gone back the strut mounting for the wing, I felt that I would be moving away to far from the original design (and character) of the barnstormer with the shoulder wing position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cotsford Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Bit of a Heinkel think going on with the nose there Jeff. Heinkel WaffelMeister? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Looks great Jeff, the mid wing looked nice and different, but this I like better I was surprised how responsive the rudder and elevator are on the Bistormer. Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Walters Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Ooh! - that's even better Jeff! I think there's a bit more Henschel rather than Heinkel - maybe change the name to Barn Hen or Barnschel? Looks good tho' - keep it coming! Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I really like the way the end rib and cap neatly wrap into the segmented end construction. Far too many models seem to lack this idea. Your woodwork will truly get better after a sander like that. For rib capping it makes the job so much easier and much more precise. Also your joints are bang on too. What is the powerplant? Don't know why I didnt see this before, it is a really nice model, built well. Subscribed. Edited By Stevo on 18/07/2014 17:05:06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 As a PS... When I did my DVIII, I made the wing mountings and strut assembly virtually bulletproof. I then used 6mm nylon bolts to hold it on - any mishaps on landing etc and the bolts simply snap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff2wings Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 I must admit to a soft spot for the between wars aircraft ,such as those mentioned ,but the it’s an American plane that gave me inspiration to revive my interest in this project still thinking of changing the fin/rudder to mach this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Stunning Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff2wings Posted July 20, 2014 Author Share Posted July 20, 2014 Thanks all ,a little encouragement can go a long way when your short of motivation ,but I need to finish this and my Fokker D VII rebuild before I start on the Albi C.1 that I’m itching to get going on. Anyway ,it’s going in the right direction now with a bit of cut n’ shut. starting with the fin/rudder cockpit done and modified the rear decking with a lower profile dummy rad scoop to cover u/c mount bolts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 DVII??? C1?Keep em coming Jeff.. Look forward to those! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff2wings Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 All the wood work now done ,just a bit of filling and sanding before the big cover up ! .............er, well that's what will happen once I've decided on the motive power ??? and finished the cowling to suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Leighfield Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 It looks just like a hot 1930s sportster, or even a parasol wing fighter prototype. Very distinctive. Good one Jeff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Some silver on the nose, what ever colour you choose, would really set it off a treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff2wings Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 Well in the end whent for a new from just engines , OS FS- 62 V , I had set up for a Merco 61 but with noise problems at our site I think I would have been hard pressed to get to 80 db I even thought about EP but I'm not ready to go there yet ! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Watch the engine cooling...looks like there may not be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jeff2wings Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 Like I was going to leave it like that, work in progress chaps ,work in progress ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff2wings Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 After much sanding and filling the cowl is ready just need to install the servos/pushrods and then it's the big cover up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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