Neil Skull - Kyosho UK Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 We have his address and Telephone, But not answering and not giving our models back! Really disappointed at how low some people can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander fleming Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Neil I Know how you feel after 1 year and going to the shop about 10 times also about 20 phone calls and 15 texts message inculding going to his house 3 times I am also giving up,realy disapointed ,the model was for a retierment gift for a chap who retired May 2013 I have went and bought another one was told last Novemeber it was ready still waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Nisbet Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Its been nearly 5 weeks since he contacted me, I was supposed to be meeting him at his shop a few days later and he never called back again. It's only £25 so ill put it down to a loss, or use VISA Debit to reverse the charge as goods never received. I feel sorry for you guys with expensive models, I don't understand one thing, if he has met people at his shop and gave them stuff back why cant he simply take all the models owned by people on this forum home then call them all and drive round dropping them off one day. Or post up here with a time at the weekend to open the shop to existing customers only and we can all go down and get our stuff back. Odd...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander fleming Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Posted by Allan Nisbet on 22/04/2014 12:53:20: Its been nearly 5 weeks since he contacted me, I was supposed to be meeting him at his shop a few days later and he never called back again. It's only £25 so ill put it down to a loss, or use VISA Debit to reverse the charge as goods never received. I feel sorry for you guys with expensive models, I don't understand one thing, if he has met people at his shop and gave them stuff back why cant he simply take all the models owned by people on this forum home then call them all and drive round dropping them off one day. Or post up here with a time at the weekend to open the shop to existing customers only and we can all go down and get our stuff back. Odd...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander fleming Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Heard the council have the keys to the shop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil67 Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 When I posted the original question I was simply trying to avoid a 50 mile round trip if it was shut. Never thought for a moment that my post would generate so much attention. I hope everybody recovers their model or refunds, it is certainly taking a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul McCaughey Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 sounds like it's turned into a bit of a nightmare. lets hope he is sensible and gets things back to people where relevant. i thought things would be resolved weeks ago but obviously not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidtba Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Folks my son had a model Remote control car in the Paisley Model shop. Today we took a run over to find out the shop is closed with no information on how to contact them. I realize this is an odd first post but we came home and started searching the web to see what if anything we can find out. We then came across this. If any body can provide me with any information I would be most greatfull for any help telephone numbers or address as my son cannot take a £400 loss for his car and then a further £80-00 for a repair. Please if you can help it would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john smith 42 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 The Paisley model centre Trading name TWCD Ltd look up on companies in the UK you will find the information about the owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen Johnston Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Hi, I am wondering if anyone can help me please. My dad took in a load of Caledonian railway models and engines, track and some N-gauge rolling stock back in June/July 2013. He was hoping to get some money for it. I had left my mobile number and had popped in and phoned a few times to see how things were doing, The owner ensured me that he had a guy that was interested and that he had paid a £50 deposit, the customer apparently worked on the riggs and had just not been in to pay for it and collect. I was assured that it was all in hand. As you know the shop is now shut. My dad is heartbroken that he has lost his things. Can anyone please help or if you know the owner ask him to get in touch or give me a contact number. Many thanks Karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul McCaughey Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 karen and others. i have sent a pm with contact details. hopefully you can get hold of the ex-owner and get your items back. looks like he has left a mess behind him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Skull - Kyosho UK Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Sorry to say we have tried calling and sending letters(even recorded) He does not answer and does not want to resolve these issues ammicably. I suggest anyone with a claim should seek advice as we are doing now about making a small claim through the courts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roch McCarthy Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Hi folks Re the problem with Paisley Model Centre it might be an idea to contact Citizens Advice Direct on 0808 800 9060, who could possibly advise the best course of action to retrieve your property and where you stand legally. They are very helpful, but, unfortunately, only available to residents of Scotland, as, I believe, they are partly funded by the Scottish Parliament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 The mods have been keeping a very careful eye on this thread. This is clearly very difficult territory - both for those involved and for the forum. The forum recognises that it has a role to play in terms of consumer affairs - and is happy to support that role. But also, the forum is legally a publication and as such its owners are legal liable for its content. New legislation in this area, recently enacted, lays certain duties on us all - contributors and providers. Please read this. It lays down very clearly the framework within which discussions such as this can go ahead. One of its major provisions is that contributors must confine themselves purely to the facts as they have experienced them and they must not speculate as to the motives or aims of any third parties. I have just had to delete a post from this thread because it did just that. So, before posting here please read the guideline carefully and act on them. Basically only contribute if you are personally involved or have concrete information relevant to the matter in hand and then confine yourself to the facts please not theories or speculations and most definitely not unsubstantiated allegations. Thanks BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Mai Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 No experience in this sort of thing, but as an idea would it help to get more action from citz advice etc. to approach as a group of people who are due money/goods with approximate values? I suspect that the total could be quite a lot, even though individual claims might not all be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Craig 3 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Sorry for coming in late, but I've just found out that Paisley Model Centre has closed when I tried contacting them to get a model back that I took in last year. I was hoping to find a buyer through them, but now I need the model back - can anyone pass on any contact details? Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Marsh Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 How much stuff did this guy take into his shop? Surely it still must be in his possession, somewhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul McCaughey Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Hi folks, this has hit the press. I would possibly try to give the press folks a shout as they might be able to arrange to get all items back. It was picked up by the judge column which focuses on consumer rights. Article here. **LINK** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Dav 2 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I liked the bit in the paper about the 'P51 Mustang Fighter Jet'.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 This should cause us all to think in future before leaving models to be sold - we should ask for a receipt, discuss who is selling the model and whether VAT is involved. We should make it clear that we own the goods until paid for & what rate of commission we are paying if it is to be a sale on commission. To the people who have left goods to be sold I would suggest forming a group and get some legal advice as a group. This might be much easier now it's in the papers. If it had happened to me ( and fortunately such a thing has never happened to me) I would ask a legal adviser ( perhaps first of all Citizens Advice Bureau ) about ownership of the goods and what would be the case if my goods were sold and how promptly the money should be paid to me as vendor. I would particularly ask about VAT on commision sales which might clarify whether a person or a company was selling on my behalf. I would be asking whether lack of a company receipt for the goods indicated whether a company was holding my goods or whether it's the person I handed them to that is responsible for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Orry Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 I have just had notification that TWCD Ltd have applied to be voluntary struck off the companies register. What that means to creditors I do not no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul McCaughey Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 I don't know what position it puts people in but if it was me i would contact citizens advice, the 'judge' column linked above (they deal in cunsumer rigjts casds and can probably advise bdat course of action.) and possibly a solicitor asap.I suspect you will be in one of the following positions; your goods are still in the possession of the owner and could be classed as 'assests' to be liquidated or your goods have been sold without you being paid so you are a creditor of the business.Quite frankly I am appalled that this hasn't been resolved one way or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Smith 1 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Correct me if I am wrong, but I am staggered to see the Paisley Model Centre still be advertised in the latest edition of RCM&E on page 127. This has been going on long enough for it to have been removed from the mags. That's assuming the advert is for the same outfit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin b Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Adrian. The magazines have to continue running the ads until either the advertisers credit runs out, or the magazine is officailly informed of their closure. "Common knowledge" is not acceptable in the world of commerce ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Smith 1 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 I understand that Kevin, but why should the unsuspecting still be sucked in to dealing with them when there is obviously, albeit allegedly a problem given the evidence present here and in the local press in Scotland. Taking a blinkered approach despite it being "common knowledge" as you say is just ducking the issue. How would you like it if some institution was still taking your money whilst it was "common knowledge" that there appeared to be a problem. Puts me in mind of the so called Christmas Club debacle and we all know what happened there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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