Nigel Day Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 Many thanks for the kind offer Cymaz, I may take you up on that! I'm almost certainly going to sell the Junior 60 (with 4-stroke engine and 35MHz transmitter etc) as I've moved to the dark side and will learn on the Barnstormer. The Flight simulator will certainly help but at some stage I'm going to have to take the plunge and put it into the air myself. I'm sure there'll be some serious sucking in of air but I may as well learn on an electric 4-channel model as start with an IC three-channel jobby (however nice to fly, vintage and 'proper' etc). There is a small group who fly on the edge of Bodmin Moor, near me, so I probably won't be totally alone, even if they'll only be laughing. Anyway, a quick update. The wing halves have been built and only remain to be sanded and joined. I then need to fit the servo, linkages, retaining blocks and central sheeting. The ailerons need to be completed and then I can add it all together. In the meantime, I finally have a working set of motor components. I'll do a spot of testing soon with all the bits fully connected. Till the next time..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Gorham_ Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Nigel, the biggest downside that I can see between learning to fly on a Barnstormer compared with a J60 is that the Barnstormer has rigidly mounted wings. Any crash or hard landing will cause an amount of damage to the Barny that will then stop you flying until you've taken it home and repaired it. The J60's banded on wings will either slew or come off completely in such an event and you may well find that you will be able to straighten or refit the wings and fly again (assuming no other damage). When you are learning to fly you need all the practise you can get - give yourself the best chance of success.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Day Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 Thanks Alan. It's the building that I enjoy - at the moment. I figured that if I total the B'stormer, or am rubbish at flying, I'd buy a cheap and rugged artf to learn on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 that looks nice and neat work Nigel ,I,m glad your power train is working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Day Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Well, a titter for those following and a reminder why I entitled this blog as I did. The wings haven't been sanded or trimmed yet but can anyone spot the (major) mistake with the underside of the inner part of these wings? Yes, guess who forgot to fit the forward wing fixing points? The rear ones are OK as it's open there but I'm going to have to slice into the sheeting, top and bottom, to fit the fixing points properly. Following the golfing analogy I used when Danny F did something similar to his Bistormer, I've gone into a water hazard and will have to take a drop. I'll post a photo after I've rectified it. Doh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Day Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 The first wing is nearly finished The aileron's in place, together with the linkage (although temporarily disconnected for sanding etc) and the wings practically finished. The second wing is having it's leading edge (2nd layer) fitted and will be sanded tomorrow. I followed Mr Fenton's scheme and am using one servo with bellcranks to the ailerons. Once the sanding's complete I can join the two halves. Then I can sort out the central bit where the servo will go, connect up the whole aileron linkage and then sheet the central section. When the wing's in one piece I'll finalise the exact position of the plywood blocks that fix the wing to the cabanes. You might remember that I'd forgotten to sort them out before sheeting the central section.... I've cut a trapdoor off each a la Danny F and will glue them back on when I've sorted the blocks and fixing points out. Until next time..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolliffee Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Hi Nigel, good to see you're making progress - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Day Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 Thanks Jolliffee. I need to get it finished by the end of the month so I can start the Chipmunk build and not get left too far behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nev Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Cant be far off now Nigel, looking good. whats left join the wings, cover and hinge the ailerons. Be done by the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Leighfield Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Nearly there Nigel. I will be amazed if you're behind me when it comes to building the Chipmunk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Day Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 Thanks Nev, Colin. I can make any job last forever. A previous boss used to delight in finding that my name was an anagram of 'delaying'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Day Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 Another month gone but I do have something to show for my troubles The servo is in, everything connected and working, the centre sheeted over, the fixing pints covered again and then the balsa round the fixing pint removed. This is so the cabane will have a firm surface to sit on. Penultimate job with the wings is to fill and sand (notice that I didn't provide any close-ups? ). If I remember, I'll post a picture of the wings filled and sanded to see if the doh! moment is visible on top. Then it's cover the wing. I'll be using the covering method to join the ailerons, fitting covering to the leading edge of the aileron and the trailing edge of the wing section first. 'Final' pictures to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 All together now..."Why are we waiting?"..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Looks like a tidy job Nigel, don't go setting fire to it with an esc John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Day Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 Careful Cymaz, you might be singing for a long time! Thanks John. I've done most of the filling and sanding, just need to do the final rub today. Might event get at least some of the covering done. Covering WILL be finished by tomorrow (well, that's the plan ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Day Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share Posted October 5, 2014 The best laid plans etc. Spent this morning and the first half of this afternoon helping my domestic Godess. Given time off for good behaviour at around 3 so only got the ailerons covered (but not heat shrunk) and most of the bottom half of the wing(s). So just for Cymaz: Still hoping to get the covering finished tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Whoop whoop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Day Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 Covering of the wing nearly finished, just got the wingtips to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Day Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 Wing finished and as proof: I'll post a photo of the completed beast later. Motor, ESC etc and receiver still to be fitted - oh and motor ro be tested too. Best to do that before I put it in methinks. I wouldn't want to set fire to the Barnstormer before even getting it into the air eh John? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Looks great Nigel well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 That looks to be a very true wing Nigel, excellent job Now get some flying done, you've a Chippy to fly next John p.s you enjoyed it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 My offer to come to our club still stands, Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Day Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 Thanks Danny. Loved just about every minute of it John. I suspect that I'm going to be a builder and very occasional flyer. But since I've never actually flown yet, who's to say? I'm torn between converting the Junior 60 I built to electric (and pulling the nose apart) or buying a foamy trainer to learn with. I want to fly the B'stormer of course but I'd hate to lose it on my first flight. I learnt a lot from this build over the Junior 60 but I'm seeing just how much more there is to learn with the Chippie project! Loved the covering bit and found that I'm quite good with the first/bottom sheet but I struggled a bit more with the wingtips on the upper sheet. Still, it looks good enough but there's room for improvement. I also need to learn to make things truer and to keep measurements more accurate. Both of the ailerons are very slightly out of true - possibly warped (or the wing is!) - but swings freely. I'll see if it makes a difference when it gets flown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 nice one Nigel glad you enjoyed the build Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Only my opinion Nigel, if that is your second build you've done much better than I did with mine. I agree put this one aside and get something flying. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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